# Competition Placements **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Videos\ **Created:** [December 5, 2010, 4:24am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/competition-placements/21523 "2010-12-05T04:24:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![icekidchang](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/898d66/32.png) [@icekidchang](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/icekidchang)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2010, 4:24am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/competition-placements/21523/1 "2010-12-05T04:24:23Z")
how come MIggy in this case got a lower ranking than David (not that davids bad. i love his styles) miguel seems to haev a much faster routine and input more tricks but david got 1st. is there a certain type of tricks that are scored higher? Miggy [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/9/6/a/96a1612bc6fbe39f7ff8d6b913c696ec8a548163.jpeg "YoYoFactory Presents: Southwest Regional 1A Miguel Correa 5th") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjXMCI7MZFs) David [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/8/6/1/8619798f550e525b7c83fa01372b98b6c08bc983.jpeg "YoYoFactory Presents: Southwest Regional 1A David Ung 1st") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkDOdIIb6dw) same with John Ando and Mickey. mickey is definitely faster btu john ando had a really nice performance but a much slower routine. what made his higher? John [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag5XZvPxNA8) MIckey [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxhhArjXgSs) ---
**Author:** ![quinton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/quinton/32/376_2.png) [@quinton](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/quinton)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2010, 5:04am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/competition-placements/21523/2 "2010-12-05T05:04:49Z")
Higher difficulty of tricks for one. Presentation ---
**Author:** ![mista8eight8](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mista8eight8/32/559_2.png) [@mista8eight8](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mista8eight8)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2010, 5:28am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/competition-placements/21523/3 "2010-12-05T05:28:37Z")
every year one style is more popular with the judges (save for 04-06) ---
**Author:** ![Samad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/samad/32/19_2.png) [@Samad](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Samad)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2010, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/competition-placements/21523/4 "2010-12-05T17:31:11Z")
> [@mista8eight8](#): > > every year one style is more popular with the judges (save for 04-06) False. Yes, certain tricks get more points. Innovation plays a role every year, and speed doesn’t count for everything. [http://worldyoyocontest.com/2010worlds/freestyle-rules.php](http://worldyoyocontest.com/2010worlds/freestyle-rules.php) [http://worldyoyocontest.com/2009worlds/1A.php](http://worldyoyocontest.com/2009worlds/1A.php) [http://worldyoyocontest.com/2009worlds/qualifying-rules.php](http://worldyoyocontest.com/2009worlds/qualifying-rules.php) ---
**Author:** ![mista8eight8](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mista8eight8/32/559_2.png) [@mista8eight8](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mista8eight8)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2010, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/competition-placements/21523/5 "2010-12-05T17:36:14Z")
^ each year, “innovation” has a different definition, Take JD’s '03 freestyle and Ando’s '08 freestyle, quite different, yet both considered innovative. ---
**Author:** ![quinton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/quinton/32/376_2.png) [@quinton](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/quinton)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2010, 5:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/competition-placements/21523/6 "2010-12-05T17:38:12Z")
> [@Samad](#): > > > [@mista8eight8](#): > > > > every year one style is more popular with the judges (save for 04-06) > > False. > > Yes, certain tricks get more points. Innovation plays a role every year, and speed doesn’t count for everything. > > [http://worldyoyocontest.com/2010worlds/freestyle-rules.php](http://worldyoyocontest.com/2010worlds/freestyle-rules.php) > [http://worldyoyocontest.com/2009worlds/1A.php](http://worldyoyocontest.com/2009worlds/1A.php) > [http://worldyoyocontest.com/2009worlds/qualifying-rules.php](http://worldyoyocontest.com/2009worlds/qualifying-rules.php) Although it should be mentioned that the more tricks you are able to hit, the more points you get. Also higher risk tricks always score more points.  If you do something that is likely to fail, and complete it, you get alot of points. Mistakes also kill performances. One mistake can cost a player 3 points, that’s quite a bit in terms of competing, considering some contests have been decided by les than a point. And mr888,  They don’t lean towards any certain play style, it’s what scores the most points at the time.  JDs FS was hugely innovative, and if he did it today, I’d be willing to bet he’d get first at worlds again. ---
**Author:** ![Samad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/samad/32/19_2.png) [@Samad](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Samad)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 12:57am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/competition-placements/21523/7 "2010-12-06T00:57:03Z")
> [@mista8eight8](#): > > ^ > each year, “innovation” has a different definition, Take JD’s '03 freestyle and Ando’s '08 freestyle, quite different, yet both considered innovative. Of course - that’s stating the obvious. Innovation is always going to be different because then it’s not innovative. Judges don’t scope out for a specific style, they look for what’s new.