# Combining offstring and counterweight? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [August 6, 2013, 5:41am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/combining-offstring-and-counterweight/57538 "2013-08-06T05:41:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 5:41am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/combining-offstring-and-counterweight/57538/1 "2013-08-06T05:41:24Z")
I just started learning counterweight tricks, and I was thinking it would be interesting to try to combine offstring and counterweight together. What are your guy’s thoughts on this? Has anyone already tried it? ---
**Author:** ![Big\_cat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/big_cat/32/877_2.png) [@Big\_cat](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Big_cat)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 5:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/combining-offstring-and-counterweight/57538/2 "2013-08-06T05:48:00Z")
> [@Matthew Smallhouse](#): > > I just started learning counterweight tricks, and I was thinking it would be interesting to try to combine offstring and counterweight together. What are your guy’s thoughts on this? Has anyone already tried it? Yoyo Kangaroo probably has. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 6:06am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/combining-offstring-and-counterweight/57538/3 "2013-08-06T06:06:33Z")
This might be of interest: > **[Styles Of Play](https://yoyo.fandom.com/wiki/Styles_Of_Play)** > > This page lists some of the yo-yo styles you will come across. This list is not complete but covers all of the most common styles and a few of the more outrageous ones. This page should serve to give you ideas of new ways to play. It should be noted... Scroll on down to 9A: From the article: > [@](#): > > Freehand Offstring > > Also known as 9A (5A plus 4A), > > A counterweight is attached to the string, but the yo-yo is left unattached. This allows for a fusion of 5A concepts with 4A concepts into one trick, into one unique style. Notable players of this style include Ryan Lai. Just because it’s already been done doesn’t mean you shouldn’t continue to try it. ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 6:17am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/combining-offstring-and-counterweight/57538/4 "2013-08-06T06:17:41Z")
> [@Studio42](#): > > This might be of interest: > > [Styles Of Play | YoYo Wiki | Fandom](http://www.yoyowiki.org/wiki/Styles_Of_Play) > > Scroll on down to 9A: > > From the article: > > > [@](#): > > > > Freehand Offstring > > > > Also known as 9A (5A plus 4A), > > > > A counterweight is attached to the string, but the yo-yo is left unattached. This allows for a fusion of 5A concepts with 4A concepts into one trick, into one unique style. Notable players of this style include Ryan Lai. > > Just because it’s already been done doesn’t mean you shouldn’t continue to try it. aww, I thought I was on to something new here :(. From that article it looks like just about everything you can do with a yoyo has been done. It will be fun to try though. But sadly I’m not very good at either counterweight or offstring, so I’ll have to work on each one first. ---
**Author:** ![Dreamer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dreamer/32/217610_2.png) [@Dreamer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Dreamer)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 4:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/combining-offstring-and-counterweight/57538/5 "2013-08-06T16:41:26Z")
Here’s a video I found for it, always easier to see this sort of stuff than to try and describe it. [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/f/7/6/f76ab04be5fd103af7d389f9c12402ca048e0101.jpeg "Worlds Yoyo Contest 2005 4A Ryan Lai") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcU3lNWaR1c) ---
**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/combining-offstring-and-counterweight/57538/6 "2013-08-06T16:47:09Z")
Josh Yee is a beast at both, he could take on the challenge if he tried 😃 ---
**Author:** ![MYNAMEISZen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@MYNAMEISZen](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MYNAMEISZen)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/combining-offstring-and-counterweight/57538/7 "2013-08-06T17:48:33Z")
> [@andy569](#): > > Josh Yee is a beast at both, he could take on the challenge if he tried 😃 Josh is good at everything though… ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_S](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/paul_s/32/1142_2.png) [@Paul\_S](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Paul_S)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 10:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/combining-offstring-and-counterweight/57538/8 "2013-08-06T22:39:52Z")
TBH just get a diabolo, its offstring with two counterweights ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 11:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/combining-offstring-and-counterweight/57538/9 "2013-08-06T23:03:44Z")
Double dice 4A!!! ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 11:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/combining-offstring-and-counterweight/57538/10 "2013-08-06T23:16:17Z")
> [@Big\_cat](#): > > > [@Matthew Smallhouse](#): > > > > I just started learning counterweight tricks, and I was thinking it would be interesting to try to combine offstring and counterweight together. What are your guy’s thoughts on this? Has anyone already tried it? > > Yes its been invented > > Yoyo Kangaroo probably has. 😃 Funny I’m surprised he didn’t make a whole thread about it.