# clyw scout thoughts? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [November 19, 2014, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/clyw-scout-thoughts/70839 "2014-11-19T13:32:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![da5id](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/da5id/32/48214_2.png) [@da5id](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/da5id)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2014, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/clyw-scout-thoughts/70839/21 "2014-11-19T20:17:48Z")
> [@yoyodoc](#): > > PS… I think this new Scout is going to be really nice. I am just kinda puzzled why it is not good enough to be the Final Proto; yet is ‘is’ supposedly good enough to make 300 of them to sell??? > > That is curious to me, no doubt. This is what happens when making a signature yoyo. We have a number of great versions of the Markmont Classic. All of them are awesome in their own right and perfect to sell, but they weren’t exactly what Mark wanted. Player yoyos get revisions based on the preference of the player, not necessarily on if there is anything “wrong” with the yoyo. I have tried this version of the Scout and it’s really good. While the profile looks similar to a Chief, it doesn’t play like one. Most of the weight distribution of a yoyo is hidden, but those hidden things affect the play much more than the look of the profile (even though most tend to judge a yoyo on the profile shape). ---
**Author:** ![caribouchris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/caribouchris/32/102_2.png) [@caribouchris](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/caribouchris)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2014, 10:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/clyw-scout-thoughts/70839/22 "2014-11-19T22:06:39Z")
It’s what Petr wanted and we supported him on this decision as it was a nice blend of all of our favorite throws. There’s even a little bit of BvM2 in there. We’re pretty excited about the Scout, it’s going to be a great addition to our new 2015 line up. ---
**Author:** ![AaronW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/aaronw/32/49251_2.png) [@AaronW](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AaronW)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2014, 10:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/clyw-scout-thoughts/70839/23 "2014-11-19T22:19:41Z")
Thought I saw on the ask.fm page that there would be a Nickel Scout, is that going to be released in this first batch? ---
**Author:** ![S3TH](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/s3th/32/260337_2.png) [@S3TH](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/S3TH)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2014, 11:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/clyw-scout-thoughts/70839/24 "2014-11-19T23:13:49Z")
> [@caribouchris](#): > > It’s what Petr wanted and we supported him on this decision as it was a nice blend of all of our favorite throws. There’s even a little bit of BvM2 in there. > > We’re pretty excited about the Scout, it’s going to be a great addition to our new 2015 line up. If it is going to have the face of the bvm2 and the nub of the bonfire will it still have the chiefs double rim? ---
**Author:** ![Nathan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nathan/32/191605_2.png) [@Nathan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Nathan)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2014, 11:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/clyw-scout-thoughts/70839/25 "2014-11-19T23:16:57Z")
Is this the version you had in Orlando at IYYC Chris? If so, it played really good. ---
**Author:** ![LinksLegionaire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/linkslegionaire/32/886_2.png) [@LinksLegionaire](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LinksLegionaire)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2014, 11:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/clyw-scout-thoughts/70839/26 "2014-11-19T23:56:23Z")
I like the Bonfire, but I’ve never been a huge fan of extreme V’s. This looks like a nice in-between. I’ll definitely be snatching up a black Advance Scout. ---
**Author:** ![caribouchris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/caribouchris/32/102_2.png) [@caribouchris](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/caribouchris)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2014, 12:25am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/clyw-scout-thoughts/70839/27 "2014-11-20T00:25:03Z")
> [@Nathan](#): > > Is this the version you had in Orlando at IYYC Chris? If so, it played really good. Exactly the same! ---
**Author:** ![caribouchris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/caribouchris/32/102_2.png) [@caribouchris](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/caribouchris)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2014, 12:25am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/clyw-scout-thoughts/70839/28 "2014-11-20T00:25:40Z")
> [@AaronW](#): > > Thought I saw on the ask.fm page that there would be a Nickel Scout, is that going to be released in this first batch? We’ll save that for the production run. ---
**Author:** ![caribouchris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/caribouchris/32/102_2.png) [@caribouchris](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/caribouchris)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2014, 12:27am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/clyw-scout-thoughts/70839/29 "2014-11-20T00:27:57Z")
> [@S3TH](#): > > If it is going to have the face of the bvm2 and the nub of the bonfire will it still have the chiefs double rim? It’s going to have more of the rim weight distribution of the BvM2. For the production run we made the inner rim look less Chief like. Almost like the BvM2, but still more of an edge. Steve had a hard time telling the difference with the CAD. It’s really subtle, but will help make it less Chief like as far as looks go. ---
**Author:** ![MikeEff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e8cbc/32.png) [@MikeEff](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MikeEff)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2014, 1:20am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/clyw-scout-thoughts/70839/30 "2014-11-20T01:20:20Z")
I’ve always been a fan of 67-70 gram yoyos, so to see something like this coming from CLYW is just awesome. And as someone who likes the double wall signature of Caribou Lodge, I’m going to give Links a battle for one of the black ones. Plus, my fiancée’s black cat is named Scout, so this is pretty much a done deal. Chris, why don’t I give you my checking account number and you can just take the money out directly. :wink: ---
**Author:** ![MYNAMEISZen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@MYNAMEISZen](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MYNAMEISZen)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2014, 3:41am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/clyw-scout-thoughts/70839/31 "2014-11-20T03:41:19Z")
Honestly. I scrolled past that post on YYN 5-10 times thinking that they were just making solid color chiefs again never bothering to click on the post lololol. ---
**Author:** ![samcordell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/samcordell/32/1539_2.png) [@samcordell](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/samcordell)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2014, 5:19am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/clyw-scout-thoughts/70839/32 "2014-11-20T05:19:12Z")
> [@yomagic](#): > > My thoughts: Stop feeding the hype Aren’t you the 2sick owner? pretty low ---
**Author:** ![Mikers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/958977/32.png) [@Mikers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mikers)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2014, 5:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/clyw-scout-thoughts/70839/33 "2014-11-20T05:29:14Z")
Joey never has anything nice to say about CLYW. Its all hyped up BS to him, probably simply because other people like it, which makes it less cool. And he’s gotta let everyone know that whenever they put out something new. ---
**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2014, 5:39am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/clyw-scout-thoughts/70839/34 "2014-11-20T05:39:00Z")
Gotta give the man credit for being true to what he has always said, though. Before he released his yoyo and had a company, this was his opinion (misguided or not is a matter for debate). It’s not like having a company should make him suddenly say, “Way to go guys, love what you do!” It would be pretty BS to do something like that. I also don’t see why it’s so taboo… plenty of competitors all over the world, whether in politics, athletics, or retail endeavours don’t have gleaming things to say about their competitors; and at least he’s not overtly pushing his brand as the one to buy instead; he’s simply saying, “Oh boy. Here we go again” as a reaction to a pattern he’s not all that fond of. It’s not the end of the world and not a huge breach of etiquette. I like what Steve said (here or on FB? Lost track already), though… since when did promoting a product become a bad thing? CLYW announced the impending availability, and if the fans decide to talk about it, great. It’s not like any company is doing anything bad… at ALL… by talking about their product. It would be weird for them to NOT talk about it. I enjoy CLYW. I think the Scout looks interesting enough, even if it borrows heavily from the Chief and others. I personally see enough significant differences to make it unique, though I also understand why on first blush people might not spot them. I personally don’t like the weight, but that’s just me. We’ll see what Petr settled on for the final version when it drops! ---
**Author:** ![Mikers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/958977/32.png) [@Mikers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mikers)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2014, 5:39am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/clyw-scout-thoughts/70839/35 "2014-11-20T05:39:54Z")
And samcordell’s post is exactly what I was talking about last time he got all angry over people wanting a CLYW yoyo. You’re representing a company, while you’re on here bashing the ■■■■ out of a staple in the yoyo community. Other people on Deadly Spins actually offered to send me Wraths to try out simply because I mentioned I wouldn’t pick up one of their yoyos with you out there representing them. You make whomever you are associated with look terrible. Looks like you’re well on the way to doing the same thing with 2Sick! ---
**Author:** ![Mr.wIerdHObBies31](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mr.wierdhobbies31/32/1421_2.png) [@Mr.wIerdHObBies31](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mr.wIerdHObBies31)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2014, 6:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/clyw-scout-thoughts/70839/36 "2014-11-20T06:02:52Z")
> [@Mikers](#): > > And samcordell’s post is exactly what I was talking about last time he got all angry over people wanting a CLYW yoyo. You’re representing a company, while you’re on here bashing the \*\*\*\* out of a staple in the yoyo community. > > Other people on Deadly Spins actually offered to send me Wraths to try out simply because I mentioned I wouldn’t pick up one of their yoyos with you out there representing them. You make whomever you are associated with look terrible. Looks like you’re well on the way to doing the same thing with 2Sick! Ah. Silly fanboys. I’ll admit I have a few of their throws. But the ones I have aren’t very hyped, aside from the Summit, which intrigued me due to the fact it fits almost any play style; and as a young thrower, I hadnt developed a style yet so it seemed like a good career move. I also have both puffin types as well as a fools gold Avalanche. The Puffin 1 was bought on yoyoexpert last June/July and the Summit was bought two weeks later. My next throw was a G Squared Quake with their first release here on yye. Then a benchmark H and Yelets for Christmas. Then the Y factor for Easter, puffin 2 for eighth grade graduation, and a fg avalanche 1-2 months later for the bang for the buck. I’ve branched out as best I can but I still have several CLYW throws because they are good yoyos and look good. I am by no means a fan boy. If I were to patronize a company it would probably be one drop because of their US machinery and awesome availability to the public. I do love the country of Canada so it’s a toughie though :wink: ---
**Author:** ![NathanC](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nathanc/32/891_2.png) [@NathanC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/NathanC)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2014, 6:17am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/clyw-scout-thoughts/70839/37 "2014-11-20T06:17:03Z")
Let’s be honest, after the MarkMont Classic, even CLYW hype/build-up is absolutely inconsequential. I don’t know why but man that 12 months or eternity or however long the MMC hype lasted was one of the worst things i’ve seen in the yoyo community. Just silly. ---
**Author:** ![Gambit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gambit/32/1358_2.png) [@Gambit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Gambit)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2014, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/clyw-scout-thoughts/70839/38 "2014-11-20T10:12:32Z")
> [@Gambit](#): > > I believe that Chris from High Speed was bothered by the discomfort so much that he actually lathe-d down portions of the catch zone in order to make it playable.  😛 I can no longer seem to find Yoyodoc’s post in this thread where he corrected me (looks like he removed it/it was removed), but I was indeed mistaken. Yoyodoc himself was the one who hand-modded his Cliff to solve the discomfort issue: > **[Doomsday and the Fiscal 'Cliff'. A view](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/forums/index.php?topic=53459.0)** > > Well, normally, the Cliffs you may have to deal with are the ones people tell you to stand back from. And even if you get close to the edge, unless you fall over, nothing is gonna happen to you. Even if you get right up to the edge of a sharp Cliff,... Apologies for the misinformation. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![yoyodoc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyodoc/32/48820_2.png) [@yoyodoc](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyodoc)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2014, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/clyw-scout-thoughts/70839/39 "2014-11-20T11:56:48Z")
I removed my post; until I found those images to support the text. I saw a few errors in my review. I was on my IPad and didn’t have time to fiddle with the text or look for the images; so I thought it best to repost once I got things ‘aligned’. Now that you have pulled up the Original Cliff Experiment; my repost would not serve any real additional purpose. Thanks for finding/posting. I ‘do’ cut stuff up, now and then, lol. But Never just to do it. Always to see what will happen. … ---
**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2014, 2:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/clyw-scout-thoughts/70839/40 "2014-11-20T14:00:56Z")
12 months, Nathan? Hyperbole much? I enjoyed the whole marketing exercise behind the Markmont Classic. I think there are a few people who would agree with you, but there were hordes of people who enjoyed what Mark did with his yoyo’s hype and didn’t take it personally that a company wanted to generate excitement about their product. :wink: By electing yourself as the hype police, I think you are finding problems you don’t need to and inviting more negative energy into your life than is warranted… it’s just a company’s ad campaign! [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/clyw-scout-thoughts/70839.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/clyw-scout-thoughts/70839.md?page=3)