# CLYW recommendation please (chief is not that good) **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [April 1, 2014, 8:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/clyw-recommendation-please-chief-is-not-that-good/65135 "2014-04-01T20:12:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![mapotofu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mapotofu/32/1518_2.png) [@mapotofu](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mapotofu)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2014, 8:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/clyw-recommendation-please-chief-is-not-that-good/65135/1 "2014-04-01T20:12:22Z")
Hi everyone, I am planning to get another CLYW yoyo. I have a lot of high-end yoyos from different manufacturers, but I lack of yoyos from CLYW. 1 month ago, I purchased a chief with all the hype out there. To me, it is just a good yoyo, not a great one. I feel that it lacks of power and it does not plays as great as everbody claims. I know comparing it with high-end japanese metal like anglam or sleipnir is not fair, but still compared with YYF yoyos, I feel Genesis is slightly better than the Chief. So, for the next CLYW, I want something that really gives the kick, something that is on competition level, on par with the japanese high-end yoyos, spins forever, and the most important thing for me is that it should be extremely stable. I have heard good things about BvM2, and I am curious if the new bonfire and AC2 are better. Hope you guys can give me some recommendation šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![LeftyLink](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/leftylink/32/1321_2.png) [@LeftyLink](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LeftyLink)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2014, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/clyw-recommendation-please-chief-is-not-that-good/65135/2 "2014-04-01T20:15:25Z")
Yeah the BvM2 is pretty solid and packs a lot of rim weight ---
**Author:** ![mapotofu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mapotofu/32/1518_2.png) [@mapotofu](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mapotofu)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2014, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/clyw-recommendation-please-chief-is-not-that-good/65135/3 "2014-04-01T21:01:34Z")
> [@LeftyLink](#): > > Yeah the BvM2 is pretty solid and packs a lot of rim weight Great ! How does it compare with your other yoyos? I can see that itā€™s your favourite though. ---
**Author:** ![N8dogg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@N8dogg](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/N8dogg)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2014, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/clyw-recommendation-please-chief-is-not-that-good/65135/4 "2014-04-01T21:14:34Z")
When comparing the BvM2, AC2, and Bonfire, the BvM2 is my least favorite of the three. I agree that it packs a lot of rim weight and it will power through any combo. For me it lacked any sense of personality. I know a lot of people love it but it never resonated with me. The Bonfire is probably my favorite out of the three. Itā€™s very unique and smooth on the string. I donā€™t mean ā€œno vibeā€ smooth, though mine has no vibe, I mean it plays smoothly with a unique pace. Itā€™s fast on the string and it is very stable, I donā€™t knowā€¦itā€™s hard to explain, to me the Bonfire just doesnā€™t really feel like anything else out there. Itā€™s unique in a very good way and that in-and-of-itself makes it a worthwhile purchase. ---
**Author:** ![mapotofu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mapotofu/32/1518_2.png) [@mapotofu](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mapotofu)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2014, 11:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/clyw-recommendation-please-chief-is-not-that-good/65135/5 "2014-04-01T23:41:34Z")
> [@N8dogg](#): > > When comparing the BvM2, AC2, and Bonfire, the BvM2 is my least favorite of the three. I agree that it packs a lot of rim weight and it will power through any combo. For me it lacked any sense of personality. I know a lot of people love it but it never resonated with me. The Bonfire is probably my favorite out of the three. Itā€™s very unique and smooth on the string. I donā€™t mean ā€œno vibeā€ smooth, though mine has no vibe, I mean it plays smoothly with a unique pace. Itā€™s fast on the string and it is very stable, I donā€™t knowā€¦itā€™s hard to explain, to me the Bonfire just doesnā€™t really feel like anything else out there. Itā€™s unique in a very good way and that in-and-of-itself makes it a worthwhile purchase. Which one is the most stable and has the longest spin time? ---
**Author:** ![yoyoavenger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoavenger/32/884_2.png) [@yoyoavenger](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoavenger)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2014, 11:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/clyw-recommendation-please-chief-is-not-that-good/65135/6 "2014-04-01T23:49:16Z")
> [@N8dogg](#): > > When comparing the BvM2, AC2, and Bonfire, the BvM2 is my least favorite of the three. I agree that it packs a lot of rim weight and it will power through any combo. For me it lacked any sense of personality. I know a lot of people love it but it never resonated with me. The Bonfire is probably my favorite out of the three. Itā€™s very unique and smooth on the string. I donā€™t mean ā€œno vibeā€ smooth, though mine has no vibe, I mean it plays smoothly with a unique pace. Itā€™s fast on the string and it is very stable, I donā€™t knowā€¦itā€™s hard to explain, to me the Bonfire just doesnā€™t really feel like anything else out there. Itā€™s unique in a very good way and that in-and-of-itself makes it a worthwhile purchase. This. If you want something thats stable and long spinning but donā€™t care about feel get like a Dreadnought. ---
**Author:** ![baerinatux](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c68b51/32.png) [@baerinatux](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/baerinatux)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2014, 12:26am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/clyw-recommendation-please-chief-is-not-that-good/65135/7 "2014-04-02T00:26:05Z")
I would say the bvm2. It packs the most punch out of all three. I personally feel it is actually the best of the three. ---
**Author:** ![MYNAMEISZen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@MYNAMEISZen](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MYNAMEISZen)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2014, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/clyw-recommendation-please-chief-is-not-that-good/65135/8 "2014-04-02T13:15:56Z")
Considering you want a yoyo that packs a punch the BvM2 is really the only one that does that. The Chief doesnā€™t really seem to fit your preferences it seems like you like heavy/solid yoyos. ---
**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2014, 1:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/clyw-recommendation-please-chief-is-not-that-good/65135/9 "2014-04-02T13:19:25Z")
Just echoing the aboveā€“based on your description of what you want, the BvM2 is the way to go. You like the Genesis better than the Chief because the Genesis is a solid and powerful performer. If thatā€™s what you want, the BvM2 is the clear choiceā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![mapotofu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mapotofu/32/1518_2.png) [@mapotofu](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mapotofu)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2014, 3:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/clyw-recommendation-please-chief-is-not-that-good/65135/10 "2014-04-02T15:26:00Z")
thanks guys, I think Iā€™ll get the BvM2. now iā€™ll just have to wait for the restock ---
**Author:** ![MattB](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mattb/32/14529_2.png) [@MattB](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MattB)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2014, 3:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/clyw-recommendation-please-chief-is-not-that-good/65135/11 "2014-04-02T15:26:36Z")
The Sasquatch also fits that criteria. It has presence, great stability and spins forever. Not being the latest model, you might find a deal. [https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7218/7086543191\_7f0c475736.jpg](https://flic.kr/p/bNdopa) ---
**Author:** ![N8dogg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@N8dogg](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/N8dogg)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2014, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/clyw-recommendation-please-chief-is-not-that-good/65135/12 "2014-04-02T15:33:36Z")
> [@MattB](#): > > The Sasquatch also fits that criteria. It has presence, great stability and spins forever. Not being the latest model, you might find a deal. > > [https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7218/7086543191\_7f0c475736.jpg](https://flic.kr/p/bNdopa) The Sasquatch does sound like it fits him perfectly. I agree. POWER. ---
**Author:** ![utahnYoyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/utahnyoyo/32/1476_2.png) [@utahnYoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/utahnYoyo)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2014, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/clyw-recommendation-please-chief-is-not-that-good/65135/13 "2014-04-02T16:11:23Z")
personally i like the bonfire, its floaty and spins forever. definitly my favorite CLYW. compared to the bvm2, its more of a ā€œfunā€ throw, were as i think the bvm2 is more of a trick monster. ---
**Author:** ![mapotofu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mapotofu/32/1518_2.png) [@mapotofu](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mapotofu)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2014, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/clyw-recommendation-please-chief-is-not-that-good/65135/14 "2014-04-02T18:30:18Z")
I have heard nothing about the AC2 yet, anyone? ---
**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2014, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/clyw-recommendation-please-chief-is-not-that-good/65135/15 "2014-04-02T18:31:48Z")
[http://www.highspeedyoyo.com/reviews/a-m/caribou-lodge-yoyo-works/clyw-arctic-circle-2nd-expedition](http://www.highspeedyoyo.com/reviews/a-m/caribou-lodge-yoyo-works/clyw-arctic-circle-2nd-expedition) Sounds like itā€™s not quite as ā€œdeterminedā€/solid as the BvM2 ---
**Author:** ![Zort\_Commander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/0ea827/32.png) [@Zort\_Commander](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Zort_Commander)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2014, 1:47am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/clyw-recommendation-please-chief-is-not-that-good/65135/16 "2014-04-05T01:47:44Z")
If you want power, Summit with Code ones. A beast ---
**Author:** ![baerinatux](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c68b51/32.png) [@baerinatux](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/baerinatux)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2014, 2:03am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/clyw-recommendation-please-chief-is-not-that-good/65135/17 "2014-04-05T02:03:00Z")
> [@GregP](#): > > [http://www.highspeedyoyo.com/reviews/a-m/caribou-lodge-yoyo-works/clyw-arctic-circle-2nd-expedition](http://www.highspeedyoyo.com/reviews/a-m/caribou-lodge-yoyo-works/clyw-arctic-circle-2nd-expedition) > > Sounds like itā€™s not quite as ā€œdeterminedā€/solid as the BvM2 Fun Fact: I have that exact AC2. I found out because of your like Greg šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2014, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/clyw-recommendation-please-chief-is-not-that-good/65135/18 "2014-04-05T18:13:08Z")
> [@baerinatux](#): > > Fun Fact: > > I have that exact AC2. I found out because of your like Greg šŸ™‚ Neat! ---
**Author:** ![Jerrod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jerrod/32/367145_2.png) [@Jerrod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jerrod)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2014, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/clyw-recommendation-please-chief-is-not-that-good/65135/19 "2014-04-05T19:38:47Z")
šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![DrAwesome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/drawesome/32/1139_2.png) [@DrAwesome](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DrAwesome)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2014, 8:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/clyw-recommendation-please-chief-is-not-that-good/65135/20 "2014-04-05T20:02:23Z")
> [@baerinatux](#): > > Fun Fact: > > I have that exact AC2. I found out because of your like Greg šŸ™‚ that makes bst pictures easy.