# Christmas present!

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/christmas-present/44986>\
**Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\
**Created:** [November 9, 2012, 1:44am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/christmas-present/44986 "2012-11-09T01:44:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![youngk1996](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/f6c823/32.png) [@youngk1996](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/youngk1996)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2012, 1:44am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/christmas-present/44986/1 "2012-11-09T01:44:05Z")

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I am wondering on what i should get a cafe racer a capless or a freq. Wave i dont know what to do i am so confused D: please help me.

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**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2012, 2:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/christmas-present/44986/2 "2012-11-09T02:01:10Z")

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> [@youngk1996](#):
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> I am wondering on what i should get a cafe racer a capless or a freq. Wave i dont know what to do i am so confused D: please help me.

My suggestion: Freq. Wave.  
I don’t have a Capless yet, so no comment but I will be buying one at some point.  
I do have the Cafe Racer. I also like it a lot, but it’s small. It’s still a good performer.

I think for bang for the buck, the Freq. Wave and Capless are going head to head there.

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**Author:** ![Xore237](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/ac8455/32.png) [@Xore237](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Xore237)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2012, 2:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/christmas-present/44986/3 "2012-11-09T02:07:40Z")

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Get the one that fits your preferances the best, they have different specs and shapes so it should be easy to pick which one to get.

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**Author:** ![youngk1996](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/f6c823/32.png) [@youngk1996](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/youngk1996)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2012, 2:11am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/christmas-present/44986/4 "2012-11-09T02:11:14Z")

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the thing is i am new to yoyoing fairly and i dont know what my preferences are yet ):

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**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2012, 2:56am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/christmas-present/44986/5 "2012-11-09T02:56:15Z")

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> [@youngk1996](#):
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> the thing is i am new to yoyoing fairly and i dont know what my preferences are yet ):

I’m new to yoyoing, too. I got a Capless first (and only) out of the 3 you mentioned and well, it doesn’t matter what your preferences may or may not be, this is going to hit at least a few right spots for almost anybody. :wink:

On my Christmas list, though? A Cafe Racer! If my list wasn’t already so packed, I’d have the Freq.Wave on there, too. If you’re at all semi-addicted like me, it doesn’t matter which one you get first, you’ll probably get them all eventually. Hard to go wrong with Capless or Freq. Wave as they’re mid-sized throws. Cafe Racer seems like more of a purchase for once you have your basics covered and you want to see if you have room in your life for an undersized throw.

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**Author:** ![Proboscis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/proboscis/32/135627_2.png) [@Proboscis](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Proboscis)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2012, 2:59am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/christmas-present/44986/6 "2012-11-09T02:59:04Z")

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The Capless is fantastic!

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**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2012, 7:45am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/christmas-present/44986/7 "2012-11-09T07:45:44Z")

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There’s so many good yoyos around and under those price brackets, so it’s a matter of what you figure out your preferences to be.

The Capless and Freq.Wave are similar in shape. If I had both I could talk more about both, but I can’t, since I have no Capless yet.

I feel for what you’re looking to spend or have spent, I would just rule out the Cafe Racer. It’s a lot of fun, but I feel that even without playing the Capless, even the Capless would be better.

If you want to drop down in prices a bit, the DiBase and Halo are also good pleasers. The sOMEThING Firmy and V are also ones I would strongly consider.

I’m trying to keep this on the YYE site but I’ve got a lot of stuff that isn’t here that’s really good and affordable. Before I veer completely away, look at God Tricks, specifically the Bounty Hunter, Cyclone and Destiny. This is a low-cost brand with high performance that you should probably really like. Shinwoo also makes some decent stuff. While the dv888 ain’t exactly my thing, I can’t say it’s bad, I can only say it isn’t a great fit for ME.

Now I have to leave the site for a bit. The YoYofficer Aura is around $50 and really good, so good I want more from this brand. The King Yo Star Bossman is over-sized but a lot of fun and also around $50. I got a Hop King by this brand as well, and it’s growing on me but it’s wide so it’s a bit difficult to master at first. This is typical with the wide throws.

Other stuff you might want to go for might be other RecRev models, such a the Facade. This is a V-type shape, very comfortable and a good grinder with all sorts of IRG options. The TA-1 and TA-1S are really fun too, giving you a choice of metal vs Delrin. The shape of these two is more H-shaped, so it rests well on the finger for throwing and for grinds, but it’s not good for IRG-type grinds. RecRev offering fantastic performance at really great prices.

It’s funny though. For the money, you’re getting really great stuff. I know because I mostly speak from my first hand experience with stuff I own.

Developing preferences is just something we all have to do.

Again my cases are open for people to try. Set an appointment and throw your arm off!

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**Author:** ![DEADLY\_SpINS](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/deadly_spins/32/1136_2.png) [@DEADLY\_SpINS](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DEADLY_SpINS)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2012, 4:38am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/christmas-present/44986/8 "2012-11-11T04:38:18Z")

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Freq… Designed like a $100+ AMAZING! Capless is good too… For the price.
