# China reopened its' wet markets, how does that make you feel? (Closed) **URL:** \ **Category:** Unrelated Discussion\ **Created:** [April 6, 2020, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/china-reopened-its-wet-markets-how-does-that-make-you-feel-closed/317858 "2020-04-06T16:40:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![nonja121](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nonja121/32/52722_2.png) [@nonja121](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nonja121)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2020, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/china-reopened-its-wet-markets-how-does-that-make-you-feel-closed/317858/42 "2020-04-06T21:06:10Z")
> [@French](#): > > That said, yes, the mayor of NYC is responsible for his inaction in calling for schools and such to shut down, especially when the epicenter of the NY State COVID-19 outbreak was in a suburb 30 minutes outside of NYC. I agree though I tend to give local and state leaders some leeway for their early responses since they’re dependent on the CDC and federal government for guidance. It’s tremendously easy to criticize them in hindsight but the decision to shut down NYC and essentially torpedo the state budget/revenue can’t be an easy one. That said, yes, once it became clear how terrible this was, quicker action should have been taken. ---
**Author:** ![persson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/persson/32/208357_2.png) [@persson](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/persson)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2020, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/china-reopened-its-wet-markets-how-does-that-make-you-feel-closed/317858/43 "2020-04-06T21:08:37Z")
> [@beherenow](#): > > “While there are people with high spending at all ages, overall, people age 55 and over made up 29% of the population but accounted for 56% of all health spending in 2016 (which has only gone up since then). In contrast, people under age 35 made up 46% of the population but accounted for less than a quarter of health spending.” And… “government pays for almost two-thirds (or 68%) of health care spending by the elderly” so the government is more than ready to watch those cost decline by any means. If those who govern you make these counts … you are not put in good hands!!! 😱 ---
**Author:** ![ChrisFrancz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/chrisfrancz/32/48992_2.png) [@ChrisFrancz](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ChrisFrancz)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2020, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/china-reopened-its-wet-markets-how-does-that-make-you-feel-closed/317858/44 "2020-04-06T21:20:22Z")
I know…but still…HERD. It’s like on The Walking Dead TV series - a huge group of reanimated corpses / zombies is referred to as a HOARD. ---
**Author:** ![French](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/french/32/70748_2.png) [@French](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/French)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2020, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/china-reopened-its-wet-markets-how-does-that-make-you-feel-closed/317858/45 "2020-04-06T21:22:33Z")
Absolutely. My initial post sounded way harsher than I intended. Shutting down NYC literally impacts millions of people, from those who work and/or live in the city to those who may be put in the position to cancel their once in a lifetime trip to NYC. It really was a no-win situation. Shut down early and it isn’t as bad as people thought, you are chicken little. Wait too long and it is your fault the city became the hotspot. I’m glad I’m just a citizen… ---
**Author:** ![French](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/french/32/70748_2.png) [@French](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/French)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2020, 9:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/china-reopened-its-wet-markets-how-does-that-make-you-feel-closed/317858/46 "2020-04-06T21:26:58Z")
I agree, “community immunity” may be a kinder and gentler term (and, it even rhymes, which is always good when you want a catchy description). However, I think herd stuck because with livestock, it is not unethical to run controlled experiments to see what the minimum percentage of animals need to be vaccinated is to protect a greater population from disease. That is what it should be all about, understanding the numbers game. ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2020, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/china-reopened-its-wet-markets-how-does-that-make-you-feel-closed/317858/47 "2020-04-06T21:32:44Z")
Well it only works if you don’t have idiot anti-vaxxers out there 🙄 (Sorry not sorry if anyone reading this is an anti-vaxxer. Educate yourself using actual science!) Also reminder the “novel” in “novel coronavirus” means NOBODY is immune to it at the start. Zero humans are immune to this at the outset. Because it just jumped (probably from bats who are super social and have crap immune systems) to humans. ---
**Author:** ![quinton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/quinton/32/376_2.png) [@quinton](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/quinton)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2020, 9:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/china-reopened-its-wet-markets-how-does-that-make-you-feel-closed/317858/48 "2020-04-06T21:59:28Z")
Can confirm. Caught a bat in my house the other day and he told me it’d be fine to share 1 straw ---
**Author:** ![JustJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/justj/32/81013_2.png) [@JustJ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JustJ)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2020, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/china-reopened-its-wet-markets-how-does-that-make-you-feel-closed/317858/49 "2020-04-06T22:10:55Z")
I thought political discussions were banned on this forum. ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2020, 10:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/china-reopened-its-wet-markets-how-does-that-make-you-feel-closed/317858/51 "2020-04-06T22:31:23Z")
I see no reference to politics here? p.s. VOTE GENTRY STEIN 2020! ---
**Author:** ![fatguysnacks247](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/fatguysnacks247/32/81478_2.png) [@fatguysnacks247](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/fatguysnacks247)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2020, 10:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/china-reopened-its-wet-markets-how-does-that-make-you-feel-closed/317858/52 "2020-04-06T22:36:26Z")
it’s toeing the line ---
**Author:** ![JustJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/justj/32/81013_2.png) [@JustJ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JustJ)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2020, 10:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/china-reopened-its-wet-markets-how-does-that-make-you-feel-closed/317858/53 "2020-04-06T22:40:42Z")
> [@codinghorror](#): > > I see no reference to politics here? p.s. VOTE GENTRY STEIN 2020! Interesting. I can’t help be see it infused throughout the thread. It doesn’t bother me, as I love discussing and debating politics. There are moments when I wish there was an adult only section on here to discuss just that, politics. Then there are other moments I’m grateful there isn’t. Prolly not a bad idea for YYE to keep us focused on what unites us rather than what divides us. ---
**Author:** ![fatguysnacks247](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/fatguysnacks247/32/81478_2.png) [@fatguysnacks247](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/fatguysnacks247)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2020, 10:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/china-reopened-its-wet-markets-how-does-that-make-you-feel-closed/317858/54 "2020-04-06T22:42:20Z")
have you browsed the Throwers Brawl? We welcome all… ---
**Author:** ![Legit\_yoyostrings](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/legit_yoyostrings/32/136873_2.png) [@Legit\_yoyostrings](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Legit_yoyostrings)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2020, 10:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/china-reopened-its-wet-markets-how-does-that-make-you-feel-closed/317858/55 "2020-04-06T22:44:21Z")
> [@codinghorror](#): > > p.s. VOTE GENTRY STEIN 2020! heck yeah I agree ---
**Author:** ![beherenow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/beherenow/32/125309_2.png) [@beherenow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/beherenow)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2020, 10:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/china-reopened-its-wet-markets-how-does-that-make-you-feel-closed/317858/56 "2020-04-06T22:51:57Z")
> [@persson](#): > > If those who govern you make these counts … you are not put in good hands!!! ![looters pro and amateur](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/9/3/6/936ab3a2f2dc65b69cacc243a5ae8dfcaf1b944e.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![French](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/french/32/70748_2.png) [@French](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/French)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2020, 10:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/china-reopened-its-wet-markets-how-does-that-make-you-feel-closed/317858/57 "2020-04-06T22:57:04Z")
> [@codinghorror](#): > > Well it only works if you don’t have idiot anti-vaxxers out there Thank you, sir for writing words I was too cowardly to write myself. Well said. ---
**Author:** ![French](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/french/32/70748_2.png) [@French](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/French)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2020, 10:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/china-reopened-its-wet-markets-how-does-that-make-you-feel-closed/317858/58 "2020-04-06T22:59:06Z")
The last theory was bats to pangolins to people. Likely due to the pangolin not being cooked to a high enough temperature. ---
**Author:** ![fatguysnacks247](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/fatguysnacks247/32/81478_2.png) [@fatguysnacks247](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/fatguysnacks247)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2020, 11:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/china-reopened-its-wet-markets-how-does-that-make-you-feel-closed/317858/59 "2020-04-06T23:04:35Z")
i wouldn’t say cowardly, just respecting the bounds of the rules of forum… but since the boss took the gloves off… ---
**Author:** ![beherenow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/beherenow/32/125309_2.png) [@beherenow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/beherenow)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2020, 11:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/china-reopened-its-wet-markets-how-does-that-make-you-feel-closed/317858/60 "2020-04-06T23:06:59Z")
From the article posted above. [Engineered bat virus stirs debate over risky research | Nature](https://www.nature.com/news/engineered-bat-virus-stirs-debate-over-risky-research-1.18787) > Although almost all coronaviruses isolated from bats have not been able to bind to the key human receptor, SHC014 is not the first that can do so. In 2013, researchers reported this ability for the first time in a different coronavirus isolated from the same bat population[2](https://www.nature.com/news/engineered-bat-virus-stirs-debate-over-risky-research-1.18787#b2). > > The findings reinforce suspicions that bat coronaviruses capable of directly infecting humans (rather than first needing to evolve in an intermediate animal host) may be more common than previously thought, the researchers say. > > The study findings “move this virus from a candidate emerging pathogen to a clear and present danger”, says Peter Daszak, who co-authored the 2013 paper. ---
**Author:** ![Roy\_Dodge](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/roy_dodge/32/99408_2.png) [@Roy\_Dodge](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Roy_Dodge)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2020, 11:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/china-reopened-its-wet-markets-how-does-that-make-you-feel-closed/317858/61 "2020-04-06T23:16:23Z")
I feel… Like there’s something admirable about a culture in which people still look their food in the eye before they eat it. ---
**Author:** ![fatguysnacks247](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/fatguysnacks247/32/81478_2.png) [@fatguysnacks247](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/fatguysnacks247)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2020, 11:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/china-reopened-its-wet-markets-how-does-that-make-you-feel-closed/317858/62 "2020-04-06T23:19:20Z")
that’s why i always sit across from my guests when i have them for dinner… [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/china-reopened-its-wet-markets-how-does-that-make-you-feel-closed/317858.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/china-reopened-its-wet-markets-how-does-that-make-you-feel-closed/317858.md?page=4)