# Chief vs Cliff vs Glacier Express

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**Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\
**Created:** [October 29, 2013, 9:19am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/chief-vs-cliff-vs-glacier-express/60689 "2013-10-29T09:19:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![skilledyoyoer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@skilledyoyoer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/skilledyoyoer)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 9:19am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/chief-vs-cliff-vs-glacier-express/60689/1 "2013-10-29T09:19:56Z")

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Again, just curious to see what you think.

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**Author:** ![Joe\_Bonkajenko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7ea924/32.png) [@Joe\_Bonkajenko](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Joe_Bonkajenko)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 2:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/chief-vs-cliff-vs-glacier-express/60689/2 "2013-10-29T14:33:21Z")

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That is exactly (almost) my exact thread

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**Author:** ![skilledyoyoer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@skilledyoyoer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/skilledyoyoer)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/chief-vs-cliff-vs-glacier-express/60689/3 "2013-10-29T21:30:49Z")

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> [@Joe\_Bonkajenko](#):
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> That is exactly (almost) my exact thread

Sorry, I didn’t notice.

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**Author:** ![AGyoyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/agyoyo/32/1457_2.png) [@AGyoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AGyoyo)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/chief-vs-cliff-vs-glacier-express/60689/4 "2013-10-30T18:01:56Z")

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I like the cliff out of those choices. 🙂

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**Author:** ![skilledyoyoer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@skilledyoyoer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/skilledyoyoer)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2013, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/chief-vs-cliff-vs-glacier-express/60689/5 "2013-11-17T11:58:46Z")

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Any other opinions? I’m leaning towards the Cliff, but what is the difference between it and the GE since they both have similar shapes?

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**Author:** ![Snafu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/snafu/32/1399_2.png) [@Snafu](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Snafu)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2013, 3:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/chief-vs-cliff-vs-glacier-express/60689/6 "2013-11-17T15:03:45Z")

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> [@skilledyoyoer](#):
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> Any other opinions? I’m leaning towards the Cliff, but what is the difference between it and the GE since they both have similar shapes?

Glacier express is just smaller.

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**Author:** ![skilledyoyoer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@skilledyoyoer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/skilledyoyoer)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/chief-vs-cliff-vs-glacier-express/60689/7 "2013-11-19T11:51:06Z")

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I can’t decide between a Pyramid Mountain Cliff and a Harrison Hurricane Glacier Express!

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**Author:** ![Snafu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/snafu/32/1399_2.png) [@Snafu](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Snafu)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/chief-vs-cliff-vs-glacier-express/60689/8 "2013-11-19T13:11:00Z")

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> [@skilledyoyoer](#):
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> I can’t decide between a Pyramid Mountain Cliff and a Harrison Hurricane Glacier Express!

If I were buying it would be the cliff the gap fits my fingers perfectly and the size is really nice and plays very light for its size. The glacier express gap in the undercut is a little to narrow for my finger.

Also to me the glacier express plays a little heavier then I like on the string but it’s width and diameter is decent but the weight and undercut gap for me is the deal breaker.

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**Author:** ![the\_dope\_chaud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/the_dope_chaud/32/1176_2.png) [@the\_dope\_chaud](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/the_dope_chaud)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/chief-vs-cliff-vs-glacier-express/60689/9 "2013-11-19T17:22:01Z")

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Cliff is huge and feels sharp edges, floaty.  
Chief is fast, floaty, and very confortable. My favorite out of the 3.  
GE is smaller then the cliff, feels a bit heavy compared to the other 2, feels comfortable in hand, kinda like a avant garde.

Do you ever buy these yoyos, or are we just feeding your fantasies?

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**Author:** ![skilledyoyoer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@skilledyoyoer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/skilledyoyoer)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 5:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/chief-vs-cliff-vs-glacier-express/60689/10 "2013-11-20T05:05:58Z")

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Will the GE be worth more in the long run? Also, do you think Harrison Hurricane looks better than Pyramid Mountain?

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**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 5:12am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/chief-vs-cliff-vs-glacier-express/60689/11 "2013-11-20T05:12:18Z")

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“Worth more”? Best not to think of such things. You’re buying a toy that you can play with… not making an investment.

I would get the Chief. Cliff is floaty and fun sometimes, but overall I find it a bit too awkward to be a contender for playing more than once a week.

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**Author:** ![skilledyoyoer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@skilledyoyoer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/skilledyoyoer)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 8:14am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/chief-vs-cliff-vs-glacier-express/60689/12 "2013-11-20T08:14:51Z")

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> [@the\_dope\_chaud](#):
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> Do you ever buy these yoyos, or are we just feeding your fantasies?

Yes and then no.

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**Author:** ![skilledyoyoer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@skilledyoyoer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/skilledyoyoer)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/chief-vs-cliff-vs-glacier-express/60689/13 "2013-11-20T08:15:11Z")

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> [@skilledyoyoer](#):
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> Yes and then no.

I am going to buy one of them.

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**Author:** ![skilledyoyoer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@skilledyoyoer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/skilledyoyoer)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 4:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/chief-vs-cliff-vs-glacier-express/60689/14 "2013-11-21T04:48:17Z")

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> [@GregP](#):
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> “Worth more”? Best not to think of such things. You’re buying a toy that you can play with… not making an investment.
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> I would get the Chief. Cliff is floaty and fun sometimes, but overall I find it a bit too awkward to be a contender for playing more than once a week.

What about if I throw the Summit into the mix?

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**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 5:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/chief-vs-cliff-vs-glacier-express/60689/15 "2013-11-21T05:00:49Z")

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> [@skilledyoyoer](#):
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> What about if I throw the Summit into the mix?

I prefer the Chief over the Summit, but the Summit is a great yoyo! Between those two, pick the one that appeals to you more for whatever reason (the looks, even) and I don’t think you’d be too disappointed.

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**Author:** ![skilledyoyoer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@skilledyoyoer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/skilledyoyoer)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 5:13am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/chief-vs-cliff-vs-glacier-express/60689/16 "2013-11-21T05:13:41Z")

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> [@GregP](#):
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> I prefer the Chief over the Summit, but the Summit is a great yoyo! Between those two, pick the one that appeals to you more for whatever reason (the looks, even) and I don’t think you’d be too disappointed.

How does the Chief play in comparison to the GE?

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**Author:** ![skilledyoyoer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@skilledyoyoer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/skilledyoyoer)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 5:15am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/chief-vs-cliff-vs-glacier-express/60689/17 "2013-11-21T05:15:20Z")

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Should I wait for the AC 2?

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**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 5:22am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/chief-vs-cliff-vs-glacier-express/60689/18 "2013-11-21T05:22:12Z")

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> [@skilledyoyoer](#):
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> Should I wait for the AC 2?

Who knows? It’ll be a while before objective reviews come out for it anyhow. It would be hypocritical of me to say to not bother waiting (waiting on no less than 3 forthcoming yoyos right now!) but at the same time… you could be throwing a Chief instead of waiting! :wink:

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**Author:** ![skilledyoyoer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@skilledyoyoer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/skilledyoyoer)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 5:24am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/chief-vs-cliff-vs-glacier-express/60689/19 "2013-11-21T05:24:10Z")

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> [@Snafu](#):
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> If I were buying it would be the cliff the gap fits my fingers perfectly and the size is really nice and plays very light for its size. The glacier express gap in the undercut is a little to narrow for my finger.
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> Also to me the glacier express plays a little heavier then I like on the string but it’s width and diameter is decent but the weight and undercut gap for me is the deal breaker.

So, since I have small hands, the GE will play like a smaller Cliff?

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**Author:** ![skilledyoyoer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@skilledyoyoer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/skilledyoyoer)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/chief-vs-cliff-vs-glacier-express/60689/20 "2013-11-21T09:06:32Z")

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> [@skilledyoyoer](#):
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> So, since I have small hands, the GE will play like a smaller Cliff?

Does it play at all like the Chief (the GE)?

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