# Center Trac or Concave? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [June 22, 2024, 12:11am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/center-trac-or-concave/403798 "2024-06-22T00:11:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![GnarlyCharlie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gnarlycharlie/32/279610_2.png) [@GnarlyCharlie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GnarlyCharlie)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 12:11am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/center-trac-or-concave/403798/1 "2024-06-22T00:11:15Z")
Does it matter much? I’m sure it’s not a massive improvement one way or the other, but is it noticeable? ---
**Author:** ![Yodaddyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yodaddyo/32/602050_2.png) [@Yodaddyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yodaddyo)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 12:23am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/center-trac-or-concave/403798/2 "2024-06-22T00:23:51Z")
I prefer konkave most of the time. Sometimes flat. Center trac is not my thing. They work, but if I have a kk that will fit, I’d much rather use that. I imagine it comes down to personal preference though, like everything to do with this lovely little toy. I think the idea behind center trac was to still give the “feeling” of a flat bearing, with the benefits of a string centering bearing. For me, personally, they just feel very middle-of-the-road, mediocre. ---
**Author:** ![GnarlyCharlie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gnarlycharlie/32/279610_2.png) [@GnarlyCharlie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GnarlyCharlie)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 12:26am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/center-trac-or-concave/403798/3 "2024-06-22T00:26:47Z")
I’m assuming the centering bearing makes binds a little more difficult? ---
**Author:** ![Yodaddyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yodaddyo/32/602050_2.png) [@Yodaddyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yodaddyo)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 12:31am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/center-trac-or-concave/403798/4 "2024-06-22T00:31:31Z")
I get better binds with the konkave. That and regens feel better with konkave are my two main reasons for preferring them. ---
**Author:** ![kawaii.kaede](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kawaii.kaede/32/640481_2.png) [@kawaii.kaede](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kawaii.kaede)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 12:54am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/center-trac-or-concave/403798/5 "2024-06-22T00:54:58Z")
dddd ---
**Author:** ![GnarlyCharlie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gnarlycharlie/32/279610_2.png) [@GnarlyCharlie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GnarlyCharlie)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 12:59am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/center-trac-or-concave/403798/6 "2024-06-22T00:59:15Z")
I’m going to place a YYE order this evening and wanted to try out a new bearing. Was looking at the fancy NSK gold plated concave ones, but then I saw the Yoyorecreation center tracs. ---
**Author:** ![SR1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sr1/32/104603_2.png) [@SR1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SR1)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 1:06am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/center-trac-or-concave/403798/8 "2024-06-22T01:06:23Z")
Nothing is better than the YYR DS bearings… I’ve tried them all and DS clears every last one of them. I’ve probably bought around 30-40 of those things and popped em in my favorite yoyos over the past few years. ---
**Author:** ![GnarlyCharlie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gnarlycharlie/32/279610_2.png) [@GnarlyCharlie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GnarlyCharlie)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 1:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/center-trac-or-concave/403798/9 "2024-06-22T01:07:56Z")
Definitely helps! I’ll save a bit of money and pass on the NSK given your feedback. I don’t know what comes in Mowl’s stock, but those bearings are great. ---
**Author:** ![GnarlyCharlie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gnarlycharlie/32/279610_2.png) [@GnarlyCharlie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GnarlyCharlie)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 1:09am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/center-trac-or-concave/403798/10 "2024-06-22T01:09:44Z")
Thanks for the tip! I’ll probably just grab one of those. They say center trac, but it looks different than a centering bearing. More like a rough concave. I’m assuming the gold is just for looks? Edit: it doesn’t say “center trac” after all , it’s “double straight”. ---
**Author:** ![GTDropKnot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gtdropknot/32/212400_2.png) [@GTDropKnot](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GTDropKnot)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 1:55am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/center-trac-or-concave/403798/11 "2024-06-22T01:55:36Z")
CTX the 10 ball center tracks made by nsk are what I use in most yo-yos. They feel closer to flats than kk do imo and handle more layers of string better than kk imo. Kk caaaaaan feel a bit snaggy with certain strings bc multiple layer can get bunched together and fold up and respond ime. Kks handle zontals better imo. Flats are fun in certain yo-yos imo. All and all flats have the most noticeable difference and everything else is good enough like the differences are pretty minimal imo. Oh but stay away from grooved bearings imo. They do well to stop precession by locking the string in the center but can feel nasty with any layering of string bc there’s no where for the string to spread out to ime imo. These are just my thoughts on bearing shapes. ---
**Author:** ![GnarlyCharlie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gnarlycharlie/32/279610_2.png) [@GnarlyCharlie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GnarlyCharlie)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 2:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/center-trac-or-concave/403798/12 "2024-06-22T02:02:56Z")
> [@GTDropKnot](#): > > Oh but stay away from grooved bearings imo. They do well to stop precession by locking the string in the center but can feel nasty with any layering of string bc there’s no where for the string to spread out to ime imo. I looked at the ones YYE has for sale, but they seemed a little gimmicky. Thanks for the info! ---
**Author:** ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 2:10am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/center-trac-or-concave/403798/13 "2024-06-22T02:10:00Z")
I like CT mostly cause the bulk bearings I have from Hollywood modern are CT and they are the best! ---
**Author:** ![SlacKing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5f8ce5/32.png) [@SlacKing](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SlacKing)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 6:38am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/center-trac-or-concave/403798/14 "2024-06-22T06:38:29Z")
I have less experience than most who’ve already replied, and I’ve not tried any fancy NSK or DS bearings. That said, I’d give the slight edge to CT, though the difference seems pretty miniscule in my experience (depends bearing-to-bearing and what yoyo they’re in). Not in your original question, but OD flat bearings are about the only ones I’ve seen multiple people give negative feedback on, and I’d say I’m in that camp as well. Maybe if you get a good one in the right yoyo it can be a nice feel, but it’s not my thing. I’ve only personally had 2 (both second-hand), but 1/2 was bad. I’ve read of others noting QC issues with them as well, though. ---
**Author:** ![bheinz63](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bheinz63/32/137310_2.png) [@bheinz63](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/bheinz63)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 8:22am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/center-trac-or-concave/403798/15 "2024-06-22T08:22:37Z")
G2 Ripper centertrack is so mooth and quiet, other favorite is YYR DS ---
**Author:** ![fos1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/fos1/32/150706_2.png) [@fos1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/fos1)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 9:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/center-trac-or-concave/403798/16 "2024-06-22T09:18:18Z")
I prefer concave. ---
**Author:** ![SmashYoyos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/smashyoyos/32/271121_2.png) [@SmashYoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SmashYoyos)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/center-trac-or-concave/403798/17 "2024-06-22T14:43:50Z")
Probably too late to be helpful, but in general ive been enjoying standard flat bearings the most. They let me layer my string more without snagging (snags are my biggest pet peeve). It does sort of depend on the yoyo though. Some yoyos are just designed a bit snaggier than others. I dont have a ton of bearings so i do have to use some KKs and center track ones still, but i switch them around to the throws best suited for them. If the gap is tight i tend to use the KKs. That said, i dont exactly dislike any bearing design i am just partial to flats. ---
**Author:** ![bigstupidbees](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bigstupidbees/32/210638_2.png) [@bigstupidbees](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/bigstupidbees)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/center-trac-or-concave/403798/18 "2024-06-22T14:45:29Z")
I like DS shape bearings but anything quiet and smooth is my favorite. ---
**Author:** ![Siggy-06](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/siggy-06/32/182279_2.png) [@Siggy-06](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Siggy-06)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/center-trac-or-concave/403798/19 "2024-06-22T14:45:48Z")
I’m fine with either as long as they are quiet. ---
**Author:** ![GnarlyCharlie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gnarlycharlie/32/279610_2.png) [@GnarlyCharlie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GnarlyCharlie)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/center-trac-or-concave/403798/20 "2024-06-22T14:46:43Z")
I love flat bearings in my Deep State. ---
**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2024, 2:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/center-trac-or-concave/403798/21 "2024-06-23T02:48:41Z")
Either one is fine. [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/center-trac-or-concave/403798.md?page=2)