# Cascade or Valor
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cascade-or-valor/72041
**Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation
**Created:** [January 18, 2015, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cascade-or-valor/72041 "2015-01-18T22:38:54Z")
**Posts on this page:** 7
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### Author:  [@Yoyordy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyordy)
#### Post date: [January 18, 2015, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cascade-or-valor/72041/1 "2015-01-18T22:38:54Z")
Which is better in general
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### Author:  [@live\_wire](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/live_wire)
#### Post date: [January 18, 2015, 10:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cascade-or-valor/72041/2 "2015-01-18T22:56:07Z")
1 is organic and mid-walled, the other, angled and low-walled. At this point in time, I feel that the valor has the edge in terms of modern play, but if you can go to a club of meeting, try both out because some people prefer a mid wall and its feel in hand and on the string.
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### Author:  [@Yoyordy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyordy)
#### Post date: [January 18, 2015, 11:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cascade-or-valor/72041/3 "2015-01-18T23:14:38Z")
> [@live\_wire](#):
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> 1 is organic and mid-walled, the other, angled and low-walled. At this point in time, I feel that the valor has the edge in terms of modern play, but if you can go to a club of meeting, try both out because some people prefer a mid wall and its feel in hand and on the string.
which is better for flowing tricks with mid-high speed (e.x. Gentry Stein’s Style)
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### Author:  [@josephadams183](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/josephadams183)
#### Post date: [January 19, 2015, 12:30am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cascade-or-valor/72041/4 "2015-01-19T00:30:38Z")
For gentry’s style definitely the Valor, I have one and it is astoundingly good. Get it
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### Author:  [@live\_wire](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/live_wire)
#### Post date: [January 19, 2015, 6:49am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cascade-or-valor/72041/5 "2015-01-19T06:49:01Z")
The cascade is stable, but not as stable as the valor. Gentry’s style is very hoppyand if you don’t hit hops clean, it can tilt your yoyo. By having a V shaped catch zone and a good amount of rim weight, the valor plays faster than the cascade which feels very chilled out.
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### Author:  [@Anthony\_Frandi](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Anthony_Frandi)
#### Post date: [January 19, 2015, 8:27am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cascade-or-valor/72041/6 "2015-01-19T08:27:24Z")
Valor, but it will be hard to get it nowaday. I personally hunting for valor too but all yoyo stores got no stock
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### Author:  [@znin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/znin)
#### Post date: [January 20, 2015, 1:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cascade-or-valor/72041/7 "2015-01-20T01:02:19Z")
Valor is the way to go for “modern” play. I really like the way the cascade plays though, like a yoyo shaped cloud. ;D