# Can you bind a yoyo back to your hand with no response system? **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [December 9, 2011, 12:08am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/can-you-bind-a-yoyo-back-to-your-hand-with-no-response-system/32437 "2011-12-09T00:08:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DavidRH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e9bcb4/32.png) [@DavidRH](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DavidRH)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 12:08am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/can-you-bind-a-yoyo-back-to-your-hand-with-no-response-system/32437/1 "2011-12-09T00:08:43Z")
Just wondering because if you can then I don’t want to get new stickers. ---
**Author:** ![Slade\_Riggs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@Slade\_Riggs](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Slade_Riggs)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 12:23am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/can-you-bind-a-yoyo-back-to-your-hand-with-no-response-system/32437/2 "2011-12-09T00:23:58Z")
Im not sure what makes you think that you could, the metal is very smooth and can not grab the string at all. That is why they are there. You can buy some flowable silicone for about 5 dollars that will last longer and give you more replacements than buying pads. I had the pads rip out on my dreadnought g and I know from experience that no pads=no binding, hehe. ---
**Author:** ![nobody](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nobody/32/845_2.png) [@nobody](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nobody)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 1:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/can-you-bind-a-yoyo-back-to-your-hand-with-no-response-system/32437/3 "2011-12-09T01:07:38Z")
No, no you can not. You won’t even be able to get the yoyo to spin as it requires the friction of the pads to grip the string enough for it to unwind. ---
**Author:** ![Rika-chan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rika-chan/32/767_2.png) [@Rika-chan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Rika-chan)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 1:08am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/can-you-bind-a-yoyo-back-to-your-hand-with-no-response-system/32437/4 "2011-12-09T01:08:32Z")
Yes you can. If it’s a REALLY tight gap. (go get an imperial) ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 1:20am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/can-you-bind-a-yoyo-back-to-your-hand-with-no-response-system/32437/5 "2011-12-09T01:20:42Z")
I wonder if he’s willing to carve a starburst response into it… That would be scary. ---
**Author:** ![JetEyeNight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3ab097/32.png) [@JetEyeNight](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JetEyeNight)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2011, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/can-you-bind-a-yoyo-back-to-your-hand-with-no-response-system/32437/6 "2011-12-12T17:30:29Z")
I’m wondering how many of you have actually tried binding without a response. I’ve done it with many of my yoyos and i’ve been able to bind. The problem is it eats your string. ---
**Author:** ![DavidRH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e9bcb4/32.png) [@DavidRH](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DavidRH)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2011, 10:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/can-you-bind-a-yoyo-back-to-your-hand-with-no-response-system/32437/7 "2011-12-12T22:23:20Z")
Just tried it and you all lied. Except for the guy above. ---
**Author:** ![Rika-chan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rika-chan/32/767_2.png) [@Rika-chan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Rika-chan)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2011, 10:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/can-you-bind-a-yoyo-back-to-your-hand-with-no-response-system/32437/8 "2011-12-12T22:44:33Z")
> [@DavidRH](#): > > Just tried it and you all lied. Except for the guy above. thats residual silicone and adhesive. eventually, it wont be bindable. ---
**Author:** ![skitrz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/skitrz/32/849_2.png) [@skitrz](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/skitrz)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2011, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/can-you-bind-a-yoyo-back-to-your-hand-with-no-response-system/32437/9 "2011-12-12T22:54:09Z")
Kudos if you can bind without a response but…the real issue is your throw. If you can actually throw with more power than 5 year old, the string will slip and the yo wont spin as well as it should, and it will just thunk at the end of the string. Response is more than just getting the yo to return, it’s about keeping the string from slipping on the throw as well. Edit: Apologies to the 5 year olds that throw hard enough to get a yoyo with no response to thunk. ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2011, 12:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/can-you-bind-a-yoyo-back-to-your-hand-with-no-response-system/32437/10 "2011-12-13T00:46:07Z")
> [@skitrz](#): > > Kudos if you can bind without a response but…the real issue is your throw. If you can actually throw with more power than 5 year old, the string will slip and the yo wont spin as well as it should, and it will just thunk at the end of the string. Response is more than just getting the yo to return, it’s about keeping the string from slipping on the throw as well. > > Edit: Apologies to the 5 year olds that throw hard enough to get a yoyo with no response to thunk. My 5 year old has enough throw to sleep a brain yoyo for 20 seconds. ---
**Author:** ![dynikus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dynikus/32/812_2.png) [@dynikus](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/dynikus)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2011, 12:55am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/can-you-bind-a-yoyo-back-to-your-hand-with-no-response-system/32437/11 "2011-12-13T00:55:44Z")
it’s possible to bind if you have a sort of responsive bearing. I didn’t have any response in my 888 for a couple days and I could still bind with it. Granted it didn’t hold a tight bind at all, it still did bind nonetheless. ---
**Author:** ![yoyospirit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyospirit/32/219875_2.png) [@yoyospirit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyospirit)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2011, 12:58am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/can-you-bind-a-yoyo-back-to-your-hand-with-no-response-system/32437/12 "2011-12-13T00:58:26Z")
Throw a Genesis without response and tell me if you can still bind. ---
**Author:** ![skitrz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/skitrz/32/849_2.png) [@skitrz](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/skitrz)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2011, 1:14am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/can-you-bind-a-yoyo-back-to-your-hand-with-no-response-system/32437/13 "2011-12-13T01:14:06Z")
> [@Studio42](#): > > > [@skitrz](#): > > > > Kudos if you can bind without a response but…the real issue is your throw. If you can actually throw with more power than 5 year old, the string will slip and the yo wont spin as well as it should, and it will just thunk at the end of the string. Response is more than just getting the yo to return, it’s about keeping the string from slipping on the throw as well. > > > > Edit: Apologies to the 5 year olds that throw hard enough to get a yoyo with no response to thunk. > > My 5 year old has enough throw to sleep a brain yoyo for 20 seconds. Awesome! Please note I apologized prior to your post. There’s always an exception. Oh and tell him good job! ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2011, 2:21am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/can-you-bind-a-yoyo-back-to-your-hand-with-no-response-system/32437/14 "2011-12-13T02:21:20Z")
Many narrow fixed gap yoyos, the sides themselves become the response system. The Imperial and Butterfly come to mind. The string has nowhere to go but to rub against itself and then that causes the response of coming back up the string. ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2011, 2:22am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/can-you-bind-a-yoyo-back-to-your-hand-with-no-response-system/32437/15 "2011-12-13T02:22:58Z")
> [@skitrz](#): > > > [@Studio42](#): > > > > > [@skitrz](#): > > > > > > Kudos if you can bind without a response but…the real issue is your throw. If you can actually throw with more power than 5 year old, the string will slip and the yo wont spin as well as it should, and it will just thunk at the end of the string. Response is more than just getting the yo to return, it’s about keeping the string from slipping on the throw as well. > > > > > > Edit: Apologies to the 5 year olds that throw hard enough to get a yoyo with no response to thunk. > > > > My 5 year old has enough throw to sleep a brain yoyo for 20 seconds. > > Awesome! Please note I apologized prior to your post. There’s always an exception. Oh and tell him good job! No apology necessary. I’m trying to get him away from that yoyo and onto his ONE so he can do something productive. But, his little hands are too small to do Rock The Baby, so I gotta find a super narrow butterfly with a ball bearing. I’m gonna go through my collection tonight. I might have to get an Aoda Littles for him or something like that. ---
**Author:** ![jrspike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/41988e/32.png) [@jrspike](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jrspike)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2011, 4:36am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/can-you-bind-a-yoyo-back-to-your-hand-with-no-response-system/32437/16 "2011-12-13T04:36:20Z")
> [@Studio42](#): > > > [@skitrz](#): > > > > > [@Studio42](#): > > > > > > > [@skitrz](#): > > > > > > > > Kudos if you can bind without a response but…the real issue is your throw. If you can actually throw with more power than 5 year old, the string will slip and the yo wont spin as well as it should, and it will just thunk at the end of the string. Response is more than just getting the yo to return, it’s about keeping the string from slipping on the throw as well. > > > > > > > > Edit: Apologies to the 5 year olds that throw hard enough to get a yoyo with no response to thunk. > > > > > > My 5 year old has enough throw to sleep a brain yoyo for 20 seconds. > > > > Awesome! Please note I apologized prior to your post. There’s always an exception. Oh and tell him good job! > > No apology necessary. I’m trying to get him away from that yoyo and onto his ONE so he can do something productive. But, his little hands are too small to do Rock The Baby, so I gotta find a super narrow butterfly with a ball bearing. I’m gonna go through my collection tonight. I might have to get an Aoda Littles for him or something like that. studio 42, if you’re willing to spend the money, get him a mighty flea, that would just be epictacular. ---
**Author:** ![Rika-chan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rika-chan/32/767_2.png) [@Rika-chan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Rika-chan)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2011, 5:24am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/can-you-bind-a-yoyo-back-to-your-hand-with-no-response-system/32437/17 "2011-12-13T05:24:36Z")
> [@jrspike](#): > > > [@Studio42](#): > > > > > [@skitrz](#): > > > > > > > [@Studio42](#): > > > > > > > > > [@skitrz](#): > > > > > > > > > > Kudos if you can bind without a response but…the real issue is your throw. If you can actually throw with more power than 5 year old, the string will slip and the yo wont spin as well as it should, and it will just thunk at the end of the string. Response is more than just getting the yo to return, it’s about keeping the string from slipping on the throw as well. > > > > > > > > > > Edit: Apologies to the 5 year olds that throw hard enough to get a yoyo with no response to thunk. > > > > > > > > My 5 year old has enough throw to sleep a brain yoyo for 20 seconds. > > > > > > Awesome! Please note I apologized prior to your post. There’s always an exception. Oh and tell him good job! > > > > No apology necessary. I’m trying to get him away from that yoyo and onto his ONE so he can do something productive. But, his little hands are too small to do Rock The Baby, so I gotta find a super narrow butterfly with a ball bearing. I’m gonna go through my collection tonight. I might have to get an Aoda Littles for him or something like that. > > studio 42, if you’re willing to spend the money, get him a mighty flea, that would just be epictacular. Studio42 already HAS a mighty flea. (no really, he does) ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2011, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/can-you-bind-a-yoyo-back-to-your-hand-with-no-response-system/32437/18 "2011-12-13T18:19:15Z")
> [@jrspike](#): > > > [@Studio42](#): > > > > > [@skitrz](#): > > > > > > > [@Studio42](#): > > > > > > > > > [@skitrz](#): > > > > > > > > > > Kudos if you can bind without a response but…the real issue is your throw. If you can actually throw with more power than 5 year old, the string will slip and the yo wont spin as well as it should, and it will just thunk at the end of the string. Response is more than just getting the yo to return, it’s about keeping the string from slipping on the throw as well. > > > > > > > > > > Edit: Apologies to the 5 year olds that throw hard enough to get a yoyo with no response to thunk. > > > > > > > > My 5 year old has enough throw to sleep a brain yoyo for 20 seconds. > > > > > > Awesome! Please note I apologized prior to your post. There’s always an exception. Oh and tell him good job! > > > > No apology necessary. I’m trying to get him away from that yoyo and onto his ONE so he can do something productive. But, his little hands are too small to do Rock The Baby, so I gotta find a super narrow butterfly with a ball bearing. I’m gonna go through my collection tonight. I might have to get an Aoda Littles for him or something like that. > > studio 42, if you’re willing to spend the money, get him a mighty flea, that would just be epictacular. I already have a Mighty Flea. No way I’m letting my kid touch it. He can’t even bind yet. Believe it or not, the Mighty Flea is my first metal! I should get my yoyo site up and working, if for anything, to show pictures. But I have to redo all my photos soon anyways. Just waiting on a couple of items to arrive. Right now, I don’t like the Mighty Flea, but it’s because my skills aren’t up to what that yoyo needs to properly utilize it. ---
**Author:** ![yoyospirit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyospirit/32/219875_2.png) [@yoyospirit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyospirit)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2011, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/can-you-bind-a-yoyo-back-to-your-hand-with-no-response-system/32437/19 "2011-12-13T20:17:40Z")
The Duncan Imperial and Butterfly do have response. If you have ever opened one, there is a slight starburst. ---
**Author:** ![dingo54](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8baadc/32.png) [@dingo54](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/dingo54)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2011, 8:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/can-you-bind-a-yoyo-back-to-your-hand-with-no-response-system/32437/20 "2011-12-13T20:19:56Z")
I tried like you once. Didn’t want to buy new response pads for my protostar so I didnt but that did not work. It will slip greatly and when you throw it will just fall to the ground and not spin or sleep. [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/can-you-bind-a-yoyo-back-to-your-hand-with-no-response-system/32437.md?page=2)