# Cadence and Cadence ES fragility?

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**Category:** General Yo-Yo\
**Created:** [July 26, 2019, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cadence-and-cadence-es-fragility/305868 "2019-07-26T13:10:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 4:44am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cadence-and-cadence-es-fragility/305868/19 "2019-07-27T04:44:09Z")

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I remember when [we beat the living CRAP out of that MagicYoyo N12 with a hammer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-yo-yo-vibe-and-how-do-i-test-for-it/291714/6), then when that didn’t work, we started throwing it as hard as we could (on the string, mind you) into concrete I was really struck with how _hard_ it was to get significant vibe!

> [@What is yo-yo vibe and how do I test for it?](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-is-yo-yo-vibe-and-how-do-i-test-for-it/291714/6):
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> - after 5-6 light “oops” throw into concrete → no change to vibe
> - after 5-6 medium “oops” throws into concrete → no change to vibe
> - after several heavy _intentional_ adult strength throws into concrete … then, and only then, we got to 7/10 on the vibe scale!

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