# Cadence and Cadence ES fragility? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [July 26, 2019, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cadence-and-cadence-es-fragility/305868 "2019-07-26T13:10:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 4:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cadence-and-cadence-es-fragility/305868/21 "2019-07-27T04:46:42Z")
It was really cringe inducing to hear the sounds of that yo-yo intentionally slamming into concrete on multiple throws though. I recommend everyone try it at some point; it’s kind of liberating. ---
**Author:** ![Marm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/marm/32/46204_2.png) [@Marm](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Marm)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 5:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cadence-and-cadence-es-fragility/305868/22 "2019-07-27T05:35:09Z")
Yeah, one thing about SF yo-yos from what I hear is that they go from super smooth to vibey real quick ---
**Author:** ![Marm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/marm/32/46204_2.png) [@Marm](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Marm)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 5:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cadence-and-cadence-es-fragility/305868/23 "2019-07-27T05:37:27Z")
Skip to 2:40 into the video [https://youtu.be/mXVHbtW2qys](https://youtu.be/mXVHbtW2qys) ---
**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 3:42am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cadence-and-cadence-es-fragility/305868/24 "2019-07-28T03:42:52Z")
Ummm, so have you replaced the axle yet??? 😶 That would be my bet. ---
**Author:** ![NoT\_ATHROWER](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/not_athrower/32/14242_2.png) [@NoT\_ATHROWER](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/NoT_ATHROWER)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 4:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cadence-and-cadence-es-fragility/305868/25 "2019-07-28T04:18:13Z")
the bliss is much more prone to be vibey when dinged. The cadence is one of the less fragile SFs in terms of my experience. It shouldn’t be too bad unless its on the verge to being unplayable. ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/johnnyj/32/94616_2.png) [@JohnnyJ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JohnnyJ)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cadence-and-cadence-es-fragility/305868/26 "2019-07-28T12:31:36Z")
I’m just gonna leave them vibey and use them like that for now. I might grab new axles in the future ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cadence-and-cadence-es-fragility/305868/27 "2019-07-28T20:40:33Z")
Did you try swapping axles with another pristine yo-yo though? Just to test? ---
**Author:** ![SirDarverok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b9e5f3/32.png) [@SirDarverok](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SirDarverok)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cadence-and-cadence-es-fragility/305868/28 "2019-07-28T20:41:32Z")
I think he should do it. A pulse vibe is not normal with a ding. ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/johnnyj/32/94616_2.png) [@JohnnyJ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JohnnyJ)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cadence-and-cadence-es-fragility/305868/29 "2019-07-28T20:52:59Z")
Oooo good idea, I’ll try that in a bit and report back > [@SirDarverok](#): > > I think he should do it. A pulse vibe is not normal with a ding. Yeah I’m interested what will happen as well, for science. Dings definitely usually don’t cause any vibe. I’ve dinged hundreds of yoyos, and it’s only happened to 5 or 6, so if it’s the axle that’ll be a pretty cool find. ---
**Author:** ![SirDarverok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b9e5f3/32.png) [@SirDarverok](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SirDarverok)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cadence-and-cadence-es-fragility/305868/30 "2019-07-28T20:56:43Z")
Yeah. It will take a few minutes and it is free. You might find out that the yoyo itself is ok ---
**Author:** ![Durfee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/durfee/32/593280_2.png) [@Durfee](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Durfee)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 10:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cadence-and-cadence-es-fragility/305868/31 "2019-07-28T22:02:45Z")
> [@codinghorror](#): > > It was really cringe inducing to hear the sounds of that yo-yo intentionally slamming into concrete on multiple throws though. I recommend everyone try it at some point; it’s kind of liberating. If you haven’t played offstring catch in a yo-yo contest parking lot with a yo-yo you no longer care for until it’s demolished, you haven’t lived. ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/johnnyj/32/94616_2.png) [@JohnnyJ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JohnnyJ)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cadence-and-cadence-es-fragility/305868/32 "2019-07-28T22:05:15Z")
@codinghorror @SirDarverok I took the axle out of a dead smooth ES I got yesterday, and I can confirm that it’s not the axle causing the vibe. Too bad, would have been great if all it needed was a new axle. It’s not a big deal though, I actually don’t mind the vibe too much right now ---
**Author:** ![SirDarverok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b9e5f3/32.png) [@SirDarverok](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SirDarverok)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 11:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cadence-and-cadence-es-fragility/305868/33 "2019-07-28T23:07:15Z")
Wow I’m sorry about that. Probably you have slighltly deformed the body or the bearing seat. ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/johnnyj/32/94616_2.png) [@JohnnyJ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JohnnyJ)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 11:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cadence-and-cadence-es-fragility/305868/34 "2019-07-28T23:18:14Z")
I’m assuming it has something to do with the bearing seat, since it hit pretty hard. Thanks though man, I’m not too worried about it. ---
**Author:** ![Imdavid122](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/imdavid122/32/87913_2.png) [@Imdavid122](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Imdavid122)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 11:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cadence-and-cadence-es-fragility/305868/35 "2019-07-28T23:42:03Z")
You could try a more snug bearing According to the boys in the discord a kk is more snug than a ct [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cadence-and-cadence-es-fragility/305868.md?page=1)