# Buying my first metal... suggestions?

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-my-first-metal-suggestions/306210>\
**Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\
**Created:** [August 1, 2019, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-my-first-metal-suggestions/306210 "2019-08-01T16:42:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![JohnnyJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/johnnyj/32/94616_2.png) [@JohnnyJ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JohnnyJ)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-my-first-metal-suggestions/306210/21 "2019-08-01T20:51:19Z")

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Don’t let a $5 yoyo designed to be stocked at Walmart keep you away from a premium high end bi-metal.

The butterfly is notoriously not that awesome, (fixed metal axle 🤮) but the GTX is one of the finest yoyos around.

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**Author:** ![Jhammond93](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhammond93/32/53095_2.png) [@Jhammond93](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jhammond93)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-my-first-metal-suggestions/306210/22 "2019-08-01T21:20:21Z")

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I really enjoy my basecamp jackknife! The finish they use is incredible for grinds. It’s also relatively compact, so I’d assume it’s good for chopsticks. Although I’m terrible at them so I can’t say for certain

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**Author:** ![ClaytonDM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c37758/32.png) [@ClaytonDM](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ClaytonDM)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2019, 5:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-my-first-metal-suggestions/306210/23 "2019-08-03T05:29:41Z")

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Topyo Raiser is well under your budget and checks every box. Really good yoyo overall and great for chopsticks. Not the best grinder but gets the job done.

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**Author:** ![smileypants707](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/smileypants707/32/19045_2.png) [@smileypants707](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/smileypants707)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2019, 6:10am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-my-first-metal-suggestions/306210/24 "2019-08-03T06:10:36Z")

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+1 for the Top Deck. It really is a phenomenal yoyo. It was my first metal about 2 years ago, and it is still in regular rotation.

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**Author:** ![twitch77](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/twitch77/32/60219_2.png) [@twitch77](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/twitch77)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2019, 6:22am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-my-first-metal-suggestions/306210/25 "2019-08-03T06:22:12Z")

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I’m with @Jhammond93 on getting a Basecamp Jackknife or Expedition! I haven’t played with a Jackknife yet, but I do own an expedition and it’s one of the best throws I’ve ever used!  
Plus with either of these throws…if you buy them on yoyoexpert, you get a free Basecamp Sherpa in the color of your choice!

Are you willing to buy a used yo? You could try to hunt down a G2 Banshee. The 2018 one that I have is insane! Without a doubt the best playing yo I’ve touched (my expedition is second best)…you can find them at around the $75 mark in mint condition.

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**Author:** ![Egon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/egon/32/53004_2.png) [@Egon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Egon)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2019, 6:42am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-my-first-metal-suggestions/306210/26 "2019-08-03T06:42:33Z")

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MK1 Diffraction 2  
High performance design  
Chopsticks like Mr. Miyagi  
Grinds like a subway stalker  
$70 Wing Wangs leaves room to buy fancy strings

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/8/3/8/838be3ae97aa5140d8eca8af28349f59f2c9f121.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![twitch77](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/twitch77/32/60219_2.png) [@twitch77](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/twitch77)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2019, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-my-first-metal-suggestions/306210/27 "2019-08-03T07:15:51Z")

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Oh yeah…the MK1 Diffraction 2 looks amazing!

 ![Mk1Yoyos_HD%20_15%20of%2056_](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/a/c/c/accf439982b0388937a5112f99609d6861a9a4a4.jpeg)  
 ![Mk1Yoyos_HD%20_6%20of%2056_](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/4/2/8/42844cf91f1d60109ccc24e791cd099287db33a7.jpeg)  
 ![Mk1Yoyos_HD%20_3%20of%2056_](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/0/9/8/098ab41b2904853f904068909c7ce57ede99cdc8.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![RyoCanCan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/ryocancan/32/163437_2.png) [@RyoCanCan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/RyoCanCan)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2019, 7:28am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-my-first-metal-suggestions/306210/28 "2019-08-03T07:28:06Z")

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Can recommend one highly.

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/d/e/9/de9deea0b1420274fcd5e0d58d452472f90d7739.jpeg)  
Super lovely

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**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2019, 10:21am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-my-first-metal-suggestions/306210/29 "2019-08-03T10:21:51Z")

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Wouldn’t blue/green be a more compatible half-swap? :thinking:

I present Exhibit A if it pleases the court

![image](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/images/transparent.png)

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**Author:** ![RyoCanCan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/ryocancan/32/163437_2.png) [@RyoCanCan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/RyoCanCan)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2019, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-my-first-metal-suggestions/306210/31 "2019-08-03T10:59:00Z")

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Yeah, blue green swap looks nice, but…

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/0/8/2/082e1f84ee569074987914572e1a554f3d7117fd.jpeg)  
I just prefer it this way.  
I’d rather have blue monos anyway (pink string looks wicked sick on them)  
 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/1/3/2/1320b388931ece7f4468f58522f8387a2de84c8a.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Benmichael86](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/benmichael86/32/64422_2.png) [@Benmichael86](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Benmichael86)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2019, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-my-first-metal-suggestions/306210/32 "2019-08-03T11:32:16Z")

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The Top Deck does seem like a really good choice based on your preferences. The only thing I would say is that there are better choices for grinding.

My suggestions are:

1. Freshly Dirty Cardboard Steamboat - It has a very unique shape that gives it a somewhat floaty but higher performance feel. The grind finish is exquisite and it would be great for chopsticks. Readily available on YoYoExpert and their company website.

 ![CardboardSteamboat-Green-1_grande](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/d/9/b/d9b0122b6149ce79ef91d84b018f433b03d46126.jpeg)  
 ![CardboardSteamboat-Green-2_grande](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/4/0/6/406f36da9011511a2e23d4b497cfad1a6444facf.jpeg)

1. Freshly Dirty x Radical Seas Canary - Also a unique shape. It has a smaller size-D bearing that gives it a different feel from other yoyos. Again, amazing grind finish and would be great for chopsticks. Readily available on their website (they won’t be producing any more after these ones are gone).

 ![Canary-Purple-1_grande](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/c/9/2/c929aa145a3faf63dfeee003556fca6b6c47ecee.jpeg)  
 ![Canary-Purple-2_grande](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/f/0/d/f0d80623bac00639be37fb577e69090f4276d419.jpeg)

I am in no way associated with FD, I just love their yoyos 🙂. Their prices and quality are amazing.

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**Author:** ![OriginalEnvoy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/originalenvoy/32/51331_2.png) [@OriginalEnvoy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/OriginalEnvoy)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2019, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-my-first-metal-suggestions/306210/33 "2019-08-03T11:53:31Z")

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Thanks for all the great suggestions friends! I decided to go with a Basecamp Jacknife, it has a real clean look that I enjoy and while it’s a bit closer to YYF than I’d like, it still seems a wonderful option. Special thanks to @Jhammond93 and @twitch77!

I was _this close_ Top Deck. Maybe next time, OD.

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**Author:** ![twitch77](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/twitch77/32/60219_2.png) [@twitch77](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/twitch77)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2019, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-my-first-metal-suggestions/306210/34 "2019-08-03T13:12:35Z")

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Awesome! I think you’re going to love it!! 😃  
Will you be buying it on yoyoexpert so you can get a free Sherpa with it? And what color(s) will you be going with?

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**Author:** ![Egon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/egon/32/53004_2.png) [@Egon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Egon)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2019, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-my-first-metal-suggestions/306210/35 "2019-08-03T13:17:33Z")

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Congrats on the progress. A note on YYF, every time you get the chance to throw one, take it, even if you’ve thrown it before because you may feel something you didn’t before. Something as simple as a different string can change the characteristics of the feel and experience. I didn’t like the K’edge at all when I first got it, sat in the shelf for a while, when I picked it up again months later I was in love and still can’t believe I didn’t appreciate it sooner.

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**Author:** ![OriginalEnvoy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/originalenvoy/32/51331_2.png) [@OriginalEnvoy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/OriginalEnvoy)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2019, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-my-first-metal-suggestions/306210/36 "2019-08-03T16:35:06Z")

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I did purchase it through YYE! Coming to me will be a Grey Jackknife and a black Sherpa. Also, those gnarly lightsaber strings 😁

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**Author:** ![twitch77](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/twitch77/32/60219_2.png) [@twitch77](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/twitch77)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2019, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-my-first-metal-suggestions/306210/37 "2019-08-03T16:48:36Z")

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That’s awesome dude 😃 😃  
Can’t wait for you to get them in the mail! Mail days rock! lol

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**Author:** ![Jhammond93](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhammond93/32/53095_2.png) [@Jhammond93](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jhammond93)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2019, 4:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-my-first-metal-suggestions/306210/39 "2019-08-03T16:54:56Z")

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Right on man, glad we could help! The Sherpa is a blast to throw as well! I play it responsive, and have gravitated back to it quite frequently since I got it! That gray is a sharp color too!

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**Author:** ![MarkD](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/markd/32/40845_2.png) [@MarkD](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MarkD)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2019, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-my-first-metal-suggestions/306210/40 "2019-08-03T18:07:52Z")

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> [@Egon](#):
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> MK1 Diffraction 2

> [@twitch77](#):
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> Oh yeah…the MK1 Diffraction 2 looks amazing!

> [@RyoCanCan](#):
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> Can recommend one highly.

Aww, thanks guys! Maybe for his third yoyo.

The Jackknife/Sherpa combo is pretty sweet. You’re going to enjoy them, @OriginalEnvoy!

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**Author:** ![TheYoyoer27](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/theyoyoer27/32/49058_2.png) [@TheYoyoer27](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheYoyoer27)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2019, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-my-first-metal-suggestions/306210/41 "2019-08-03T21:45:23Z")

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> [@anon29745795](#):
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> DRAUPNIR

That’s $250…

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**Author:** ![threebearrries](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/threebearrries/32/42073_2.png) [@threebearrries](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/threebearrries)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2019, 11:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-my-first-metal-suggestions/306210/42 "2019-08-03T23:59:29Z")

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You also can’t buy it anywhere lol

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