# Buying my first metal... suggestions? **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [August 1, 2019, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-my-first-metal-suggestions/306210 "2019-08-01T16:42:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![OriginalEnvoy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/originalenvoy/32/51331_2.png) [@OriginalEnvoy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/OriginalEnvoy)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-my-first-metal-suggestions/306210/1 "2019-08-01T16:42:04Z")
Hey guys, as stated in three topic I’m looking to upgrade to my first metal throw. I’ve made incredible progress with my First Base and Skyva, but it’s time to make an upgrade. I’ve looked over thousands of reviews and recommendations, but the options are overwhelming. Let me give you a run-down if what I’m looking for. Price range: around $100 Not a YYF (just not interested) Good for chopsticks (the others are too large?) Good for grinds Not a V-shape. Can you help a fellow out? ---
**Author:** ![MoosaK](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moosak/32/116955_2.png) [@MoosaK](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MoosaK)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-my-first-metal-suggestions/306210/2 "2019-08-01T16:49:03Z")
Anything that looks cool. Any suggestions are just based on preferences, so get what you think looks cool. A couple of my suggestions: Yoyofriends Magpie, SF Cadence ES, CLYW Kayak I would recommend YYF too, any reasons why not? ---
**Author:** ![OriginalEnvoy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/originalenvoy/32/51331_2.png) [@OriginalEnvoy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/OriginalEnvoy)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 4:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-my-first-metal-suggestions/306210/3 "2019-08-01T16:52:18Z")
I played with my friends Replay Pro and I’ve messed around with a Shutter. They were alright, I just wasn’t super impressed for these big name throws. ---
**Author:** ![MoosaK](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moosak/32/116955_2.png) [@MoosaK](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MoosaK)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-my-first-metal-suggestions/306210/4 "2019-08-01T16:56:20Z")
Is that the only metal yoyo you’ve played with? ---
**Author:** ![Sinister\_Yoyos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sinister_yoyos/32/114006_2.png) [@Sinister\_Yoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Sinister_Yoyos)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-my-first-metal-suggestions/306210/5 "2019-08-01T16:57:15Z")
Literally any yoyo on this site fitting your criteria will work. It’s all about preference once you exceed the $35-$40 mark. There’s no discernible difference in play quality across the board. My personal favorite that you described would be the 2Sick Grandmaster. It has the carefree style of the A-rt Grail with the performance of a bimetal. ---
**Author:** ![OriginalEnvoy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/originalenvoy/32/51331_2.png) [@OriginalEnvoy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/OriginalEnvoy)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-my-first-metal-suggestions/306210/6 "2019-08-01T17:01:25Z")
> [@MoosaK](#): > > Is that the only metal yoyo you’ve played with? Yes, very briefly. > [@Sinister\_Yoyos](#): > > There’s no discernible difference in play quality across the board. What about diameter for chopsticks? I am probably just not good at it yet, but wouldn’t a smaller throw make it easier to hit? I always hit my fingers because the gap between them is _so_ tight by comparison to the size of the Skyva. ---
**Author:** ![Sinister\_Yoyos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sinister_yoyos/32/114006_2.png) [@Sinister\_Yoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Sinister_Yoyos)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-my-first-metal-suggestions/306210/7 "2019-08-01T17:04:43Z")
A smaller diameter helps, but isn’t necessary. I’ve done chopsticks with a 420 with no trouble. I have large fat man hands though so ymmv. ---
**Author:** ![adamantiumpops](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/adamantiumpops/32/198285_2.png) [@adamantiumpops](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/adamantiumpops)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-my-first-metal-suggestions/306210/8 "2019-08-01T17:08:33Z")
Got a Pickaxe up for grabs if you want it. Slide into them DMs if you’re interested. Smaller diameter, not too powerful, nice smooth finish for grinds. Porygoner colorway. WELL under your budget. ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-my-first-metal-suggestions/306210/9 "2019-08-01T17:27:52Z")
One Drop Top Deck. (You’ll thank me later) ---
**Author:** ![hobbygod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hobbygod/32/120997_2.png) [@hobbygod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hobbygod)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-my-first-metal-suggestions/306210/10 "2019-08-01T17:31:44Z")
Circle city hero is amazing ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/johnnyj/32/94616_2.png) [@JohnnyJ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JohnnyJ)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-my-first-metal-suggestions/306210/11 "2019-08-01T17:35:30Z")
I second the Top Deck. One of my favorite yoyos ever ---
**Author:** ![witchgrinder](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/witchgrinder/32/57591_2.png) [@witchgrinder](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/witchgrinder)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-my-first-metal-suggestions/306210/12 "2019-08-01T17:40:23Z")
If you’re throwing a hundred wing wangs at a metal throw try a Duncan Grasshopper GTX. It’s a fantastic player. ---
**Author:** ![OriginalEnvoy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/originalenvoy/32/51331_2.png) [@OriginalEnvoy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/OriginalEnvoy)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-my-first-metal-suggestions/306210/13 "2019-08-01T17:41:02Z")
Link to the BST post? ---
**Author:** ![yomeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/f04885/32.png) [@yomeister](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yomeister)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-my-first-metal-suggestions/306210/14 "2019-08-01T17:50:50Z")
SF Statement. Absolutely fits all your requests. Under $100 Obviously not an SF Smaller than usual diameter Amazing for grinds Bell shape ---
**Author:** ![Nocompromise](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nocompromise/32/177371_2.png) [@Nocompromise](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Nocompromise)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-my-first-metal-suggestions/306210/15 "2019-08-01T18:05:11Z")
> [@witchgrinder](#): > > If you’re throwing a hundred wing wangs at a metal throw try a Duncan Grasshopper GTX. It’s a fantastic player. The GTX is absolutely insane, especially for the price. My personal favorite right now, which would also fit your chopsticks criteria (it’s slightly on the smaller side of the current design philosophy), is the Trident. ---
**Author:** ![yoyo\_cubicle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyo_cubicle/32/691750_2.png) [@yoyo\_cubicle](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyo_cubicle)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-my-first-metal-suggestions/306210/16 "2019-08-01T18:17:27Z")
> [@OriginalEnvoy](#): > > Price range: around $100 Come up with the extra $40 and get yourself a Ti Vayder. ---
**Author:** ![witchgrinder](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/witchgrinder/32/57591_2.png) [@witchgrinder](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/witchgrinder)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-my-first-metal-suggestions/306210/17 "2019-08-01T18:18:14Z")
But he wants something that can actually grind. ---
**Author:** ![adamantiumpops](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/adamantiumpops/32/198285_2.png) [@adamantiumpops](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/adamantiumpops)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 6:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-my-first-metal-suggestions/306210/18 "2019-08-01T18:24:16Z")
> [@Please delete! Funded!](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fs-ft-oyy-one-drop-clyw-duncan-help-me-buy-an-888-forever/303952): > > Funded my 888 Forever! Lol. ---
**Author:** ![adamantiumpops](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/adamantiumpops/32/198285_2.png) [@adamantiumpops](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/adamantiumpops)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-my-first-metal-suggestions/306210/19 "2019-08-01T18:29:49Z")
Also there are some killer suggestions in here, so I will absolutely not be offended if you go another route, lol. Just couldn’t miss the opportunity to plug shamelessly. I can cut you a deal two within your budget as well if you want. /endsalespitch ---
**Author:** ![OriginalEnvoy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/originalenvoy/32/51331_2.png) [@OriginalEnvoy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/OriginalEnvoy)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-my-first-metal-suggestions/306210/20 "2019-08-01T18:58:35Z")
Many good suggestions, thanks to all! Still open to others. The Grasshopper looks really cool, and I know that Duncan makes good yoyos, but i had a butterfly and the name Duncan kinda skeeves me out a bit. [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-my-first-metal-suggestions/306210.md?page=2)