# buying Dark Magic... should upgrade bearing? **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [June 27, 2010, 4:26am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-dark-magic-should-upgrade-bearing/16026 "2010-06-27T04:26:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Saskabilly\_Psychosis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/saskabilly_psychosis/32/560_2.png) [@Saskabilly\_Psychosis](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Saskabilly_Psychosis)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2010, 4:26am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-dark-magic-should-upgrade-bearing/16026/1 "2010-06-27T04:26:55Z")
im going to be purchasing a Dark Magic in the near future and i was wondering if I should get a KonKave bearing to upgrade it right away? i live in Canada, so shipping is a bastard. I like to order things in one shipment instead of making a second order just for a bearing any help or comments would be GREATLY appreciated… thanks ---
**Author:** ![weinbe58](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/dbc845/32.png) [@weinbe58](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/weinbe58)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2010, 4:45am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-dark-magic-should-upgrade-bearing/16026/2 "2010-06-27T04:45:15Z")
Should be fine, the yyj stock bearings are pretty awesome ---
**Author:** ![lleraH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/90ced4/32.png) [@lleraH](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/lleraH)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2010, 6:27am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-dark-magic-should-upgrade-bearing/16026/3 "2010-06-27T06:27:50Z")
Indeed. The stock bearing on my legacy is quite nice. ---
**Author:** ![mista8eight8](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mista8eight8/32/559_2.png) [@mista8eight8](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mista8eight8)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2010, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-dark-magic-should-upgrade-bearing/16026/4 "2010-06-27T12:26:42Z")
KK bearings have a tendency to bunch-up strings when layered causing unexpected binds and pain. ---
**Author:** ![Apetrunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/apetrunk/32/148_2.png) [@Apetrunk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apetrunk)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2010, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-dark-magic-should-upgrade-bearing/16026/5 "2010-06-27T12:36:25Z")
The stock bearing in the Dark Magic will be great. Konkaves won’t really help you much, if at all, but they do give a different feeling to the yoyo. If you have the money and want to try one out, go for it, but it won’t make the yoyo any better. ---
**Author:** ![sa11297](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7bcc69/32.png) [@sa11297](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sa11297)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2010, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-dark-magic-should-upgrade-bearing/16026/6 "2010-06-27T14:26:56Z")
i recommend instead to buy silicone for it and/or spacers if you want a little extra unresponsive play. its great on mine 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Saskabilly\_Psychosis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/saskabilly_psychosis/32/560_2.png) [@Saskabilly\_Psychosis](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Saskabilly_Psychosis)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2010, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-dark-magic-should-upgrade-bearing/16026/7 "2010-06-27T16:42:33Z")
what does the silicone and the spacers do? ---
**Author:** ![lleraH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/90ced4/32.png) [@lleraH](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/lleraH)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2010, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-dark-magic-should-upgrade-bearing/16026/8 "2010-06-27T16:48:15Z")
Spacers widen the gap of the yoyo making it more unresponsive. Silicone replaces the rubber O ring that the Darg Magic has. It creates a more unresponsive yoyo and smoother binds. They’re out of stock with the red shims and silicone though. The things I wanted. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![sa11297](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7bcc69/32.png) [@sa11297](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sa11297)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2010, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-dark-magic-should-upgrade-bearing/16026/9 "2010-06-27T16:56:17Z")
yeah they are out ☹ but u can try other brands beside yyj’s and they should work also you can try other sites to see if they are in stock. but i really like them and i think anybody with a dm would like them too :wink: ---
**Author:** ![lleraH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/90ced4/32.png) [@lleraH](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/lleraH)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2010, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-dark-magic-should-upgrade-bearing/16026/10 "2010-06-27T17:04:24Z")
People wanna save money on shipping. If they had it here, it’d be $5 saved. Just a thought 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Saskabilly\_Psychosis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/saskabilly_psychosis/32/560_2.png) [@Saskabilly\_Psychosis](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Saskabilly_Psychosis)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2010, 12:53am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-dark-magic-should-upgrade-bearing/16026/11 "2010-06-28T00:53:43Z")
they are very low on Thin Lube in the store. and the silicone rings are out. i was wondering how often they restock? ---
**Author:** ![lleraH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/90ced4/32.png) [@lleraH](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/lleraH)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2010, 1:09am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-dark-magic-should-upgrade-bearing/16026/12 "2010-06-28T01:09:59Z")
Ask the store themselves. They know. I’m about to shoot them an email. ---
**Author:** ![Saskabilly\_Psychosis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/saskabilly_psychosis/32/560_2.png) [@Saskabilly\_Psychosis](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Saskabilly_Psychosis)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2010, 3:13am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-dark-magic-should-upgrade-bearing/16026/13 "2010-06-28T03:13:30Z")
I JUST ORDERED THE ROYAL DARK MAGIC!!! YAAAYYY!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D 8) 8) anyway i also ordered both types of YYJ lube. and i want those Synergy caps… too bad they didnt have any left. :‘( :’( ---
**Author:** ![lleraH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/90ced4/32.png) [@lleraH](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/lleraH)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2010, 3:36am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-dark-magic-should-upgrade-bearing/16026/14 "2010-06-28T03:36:07Z")
That looks really nice. And we’re glad to have helped. ---
**Author:** ![yoyoz1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoz1/32/388_2.png) [@yoyoz1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoz1)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2010, 5:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-dark-magic-should-upgrade-bearing/16026/15 "2010-06-28T17:55:34Z")
If you want shims here is a tutorial on how to make them. > **[Tutorial on how to make shims](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/forums/index.php/topic,16909.0.html)** > > Any question ask me. For the silicone just go to the hardware store and get a tube of flowable silicone or RTV(if the dont have the flowable type). A tube cost 5$. Then stop by a pharmacy and get big 20cc seringe (the ones that dont have a needle) to apply the silicone. ---
**Author:** ![lleraH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/90ced4/32.png) [@lleraH](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/lleraH)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2010, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-dark-magic-should-upgrade-bearing/16026/16 "2010-06-28T18:10:58Z")
The slim k pad works ---
**Author:** ![Apetrunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/apetrunk/32/148_2.png) [@Apetrunk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apetrunk)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2010, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-dark-magic-should-upgrade-bearing/16026/17 "2010-06-28T19:34:41Z")
A syringe (sp) isn’t really needed for applying silicone. It works fine to just use the tube and cap it off when you’re done. ---
**Author:** ![yoyoz1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoz1/32/388_2.png) [@yoyoz1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoz1)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2010, 2:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buying-dark-magic-should-upgrade-bearing/16026/18 "2010-06-29T02:05:09Z")
> [@Apetrunk](#): > > A syringe (sp) isn’t really needed for applying silicone. It works fine to just use the tube and cap it off when you’re done. The seringe makes the silicone applying easier and more accurate and saves silicone.