# Buyers Remorse **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [October 29, 2019, 2:11am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buyers-remorse/309894 "2019-10-29T02:11:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![yoyodoc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyodoc/32/48820_2.png) [@yoyodoc](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyodoc)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2019, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buyers-remorse/309894/41 "2019-10-31T09:41:41Z")
Buying yo-yos and gathering up yoyos are two entirely different things. The confusion is obviously only in your mind. To me; a collector is somebody that procures yo-yos for one or more of many different reasons. Collectors often know exactly what they want. They know what it’s worth. They may be interested in; rarity, color ways, brands, type, material type, certain numbers, resell value, etc… Collectors normally organize their yo-yos display cases or drawers or lighted cabinets. They may end up with a very large number of yo-yos; but the number of yo-yos they ‘have’ is most often not their driving stimulus. … Then there are people like me. That buy yo-yos because they just like the adventure of new yo-yos. Large numbers are not the end game. Specific numbered releases or brands or color ways or limited editions or values are not a planned part of the process. I am not driven by what others buy. I never buy yo-yos with thoughts they may be worth more years later… or buying to immediately resell at a profit. I do not organize my yoyos. I do not have a ledger with all my yoyos listed. I do not display yo-yos in my houses. I keep most loosely stacked in plastic totes. They are gently placed in the large containers but they are not stacked with space saving precision. When I look for a yoyo; often I have to try and remember exactly what container the yoyo is in? Years ago; no doubt; I was a pretty busy modder. I was driven by a desire to get more performance out of yo-yos. I had extensive experience customizing cars and speedboats and Harley motorcycles. Back when I got my first yoyos; I just felt they were something else to hot-rod. Back around 1998; I noticed that the kids were doing some pretty crazy(at the time) tricks on some pretty sub potential performing yo-yos. That was my inspiration to use my customizing skills to squeeze more performance out of the current yo-yos of the day. I became a sort of Dr. Frankenstein of yo-yos. I bought stuff and reworked it. Like Mr. Potatohead; I moved stuff around. I made friends with other yoyo modders from around the World. We attacked hot-rodding yo-yos from many different angles. Not to outdo each other. But to see ‘what we could do’. As ‘all’ of us yoyo customizers’ did ‘our things’; over time the Manufacturers did their own Yoyo performance enhancements. And yo-yos for retail sale became more and more higher performance oriented. So; my personal mission slowly became unnecessary. I pretty much converted from buying yo-yos to make them work better. To buying yo-yos to see which ones I liked better. I never had the desire or specific urge to accumulate a Ton of yo-yos. I have never purchased a yoyo with ‘skills included’. I have never bought a yoyo with a vision that I would become waaay better because ‘this is the one’ mindset. I buy yo-yos because I love messing with yo-yos and endlessly appreciate what others produce. I am around for the long run and no doubt I will die with a yoyo in my hand or in my pocket or both. I don’t falter and have thoughts that I no longer have time for yo-yos. I will not quit because life is too busy. Or yo-yos are suddenly boring. Or nobody close to me yoyos; so what’s the use. When I bought my first yoyo in about 1997/98; I knew immediately that It would be a part of my active life. One driving motivation in my yoyo adventures; was simply to prove that yo-yos could be made to perform better through various tweaks and weight distribution factors. Various Awards I have received over the years; seem to point to the reality that ‘others have recognized’ my efforts were worthwhile. I sure didn’t present Awards to myself. So now I am wearing ‘the other shoe’. I am appreciating and recognizing what others; do, make, accomplish. Pushing the envelope at higher levers. It is almost impossible to buy a poor performing yo-yos nowadays. Yoyos are no longer bad or good. Yoyos are good, really good or really awesome. From a multitude of Makers. And at just about every imaginable pricepoint. I don’t need to spend time cutting up stuff to impress ‘who’. I buy stuff to impress me. I am slowly learning CAD now. I have ideas that will surface when I ‘am ready’. As a modder; I am far from done. But I am not compelled to knock the dust off my machines because somebody may challenge me make some moves like days gone past. I never planned on having such a large number of yo-yos. But without a specific plan; often unplanned results will occur. To be continued… ---
**Author:** ![d34dj3d](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/d34dj3d/32/105169_2.png) [@d34dj3d](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/d34dj3d)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2019, 3:54am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buyers-remorse/309894/42 "2019-11-13T03:54:04Z")
> [@yoyodoc](#): > > Then there are people like me. That buy yo-yos because they just like the adventure of new yo-yos. Large numbers are not the end game. Specific numbered releases or brands or color ways or limited editions or values are not a planned part of the process. I couldn’t have said it any better myself. Your whole post, really. I grew up building hotrods with my dad, I still enjoy working on, modifying and driving my cars. There really is something about yoyos that gives me the same buzz, especially how anybody with an idea and a few bucks can make their vision into reality, the metal work, the fit and finish. I really enjoy experiencing the craftsmanship and feel of different yoyos. I try to see things from the eye of the designer. Every new (to me) yoyo is another adventure. ---
**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2019, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buyers-remorse/309894/43 "2019-11-13T21:04:06Z")
> [@Astroyama](#): > > I do believe in gross pollution, and a 1000 yoyos makes my head spin. You do realise that those 1000 yoyos would still exist even if @yoyodoc did not purchase them? You also need to remember that yoyos slowly accumulate in one’s possession over a number of years, and @yoyodoc has been in the game for a good while. ---
**Author:** ![T4t3z0r88](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/t4t3z0r88/32/66430_2.png) [@T4t3z0r88](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/T4t3z0r88)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2019, 9:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buyers-remorse/309894/44 "2019-11-13T21:25:45Z")
If you cant figure it out dont toss it, send it my way haha ---
**Author:** ![MoonageMin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moonagemin/32/67731_2.png) [@MoonageMin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MoonageMin)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2019, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buyers-remorse/309894/45 "2019-11-14T22:07:58Z")
My biggest buyers remorse at the moment is yoyo tape. The first few days of playing I had such bad chaffing I bought a pack of 3 massive rolls of Coban tape from amazon. (It was the smallest bundle it comes in). Wasn’t cheap either, £5 so $7. Would have normally bought it from this site, but I needed it ASAP. Arrived next day, used for exactly 1 day. Now my finger doesn’t need it any more. Have basically 3 new rolls that will probably never get used… ---
**Author:** ![JezusMclovin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JezusMclovin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JezusMclovin)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buyers-remorse/309894/46 "2019-12-19T15:31:00Z")
Immsorry/;(.; I have.a cheap silver.2013 H if.Maybe it’s the year. Has a.scratch that will need to buffer out of not do arm.grinds deep.scratch Other than that smooth Spike.SE. $40 shipped or trades ---
**Author:** ![beherenow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/beherenow/32/125309_2.png) [@beherenow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/beherenow)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buyers-remorse/309894/47 "2019-12-19T16:26:52Z")
Cloth athletic tape? Try this! First man made thingy to break the sound barrier IIRC. Don’t cut your ear off trying the reverse Tasmanian cutback. [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/b/9/d/b9d57a6106ce3a82e944e04e2c046af9b2479473.jpeg "How to Make a Bullwhip") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOcRZrESYCI) ---
**Author:** ![MoonageMin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moonagemin/32/67731_2.png) [@MoonageMin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MoonageMin)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buyers-remorse/309894/48 "2019-12-19T17:35:20Z")
Lol I might do that. ---
**Author:** ![RABid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rabid/32/71864_2.png) [@RABid](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/RABid)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buyers-remorse/309894/49 "2019-12-19T21:39:31Z")
My remorse has been with cheap yoyo’s. I’m still a beginner and cheap yoyo’s just about caused me to give up the hobby. I found them frustrating until I was a few months in and my throw became better. Luckily I took a chance and picked up a quality responsive before quitting. Once I got a good yoyo I began to enjoy the hobby. ---
**Author:** ![FrankieJR](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/frankiejr/32/74848_2.png) [@FrankieJR](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/FrankieJR)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 9:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buyers-remorse/309894/50 "2019-12-19T21:49:54Z")
A dollar store yoyo is what got me into the hobby. I progressed and bought better yoyos but it was so much fun. Than I bought a 5$ butterfly xt. Followed by a Sage. The sage was like 12$ if I remember correctly and was quite versatile. What cheap yoyos were you using? And what did you end up buying later? I got some good responsives that genuinely helped me enjoy responsive play a lot but I still pick up the butterfly xt to show my kid what is still possible on it ---
**Author:** ![PCaliyoyos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pcaliyoyos/32/108396_2.png) [@PCaliyoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PCaliyoyos)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buyers-remorse/309894/51 "2019-12-19T21:55:41Z")
that’s what i did when i was 13 i got a dollar tree responsive then the string broke _and i threw out the yoyo_ very sad/ashamed now that i did that now i’m 14 and a friend got my the N12 but i still buy the dollar tree yoyos bc they are really fun ---
**Author:** ![Mystik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mystik/32/83294_2.png) [@Mystik](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mystik)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 10:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buyers-remorse/309894/52 "2019-12-19T22:58:51Z")
![15767962747453717207263708870267](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/b/c/1/bc1e9d11b5bde02316f3131aa78f6232d4bdb392.jpeg) Yes. That’s an old string repurposed for the cracker. ---
**Author:** ![Legit\_yoyostrings](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/legit_yoyostrings/32/136873_2.png) [@Legit\_yoyostrings](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Legit_yoyostrings)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 11:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buyers-remorse/309894/53 "2019-12-19T23:01:30Z")
ive been meaning to buy one just to see what it feels like again ---
**Author:** ![PCaliyoyos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pcaliyoyos/32/108396_2.png) [@PCaliyoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PCaliyoyos)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 11:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buyers-remorse/309894/54 "2019-12-19T23:04:54Z")
they aren’t even that bad lol i bought three of em’ i did a half swap with green and purple and i’m giving two of them to a friend i’m giving him the blue and the other half swap ---
**Author:** ![Grunt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/grunt/32/679117_2.png) [@Grunt](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Grunt)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 11:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buyers-remorse/309894/55 "2019-12-19T23:44:01Z")
When you get into 2A or 3A, you’ll need the tape again. ---
**Author:** ![MoonageMin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moonagemin/32/67731_2.png) [@MoonageMin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MoonageMin)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 11:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buyers-remorse/309894/56 "2019-12-19T23:48:36Z")
ah true true, want to focus on 1A first and then might go 2A because you know can’t exactly be a yoyoer withoutbasic 2A hype and then I think I would prob do 3A last, want to try 5A. But yeah I think having basics down for 1A is first before over complicating things ---
**Author:** ![Legit\_yoyostrings](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/legit_yoyostrings/32/136873_2.png) [@Legit\_yoyostrings](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Legit_yoyostrings)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 1:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buyers-remorse/309894/57 "2019-12-20T01:29:25Z")
I just use ban aids lol but when I get into 3a again im going to buy some tape ---
**Author:** ![Durfee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/durfee/32/593280_2.png) [@Durfee](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Durfee)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 3:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buyers-remorse/309894/58 "2019-12-20T03:48:47Z")
Be prepared: 2A is hard af. When you get there I recommend the Sunrises or 720s. Sunrise is basically 720s with Yoyojam looper bearings instead of the normal ones. I started with Initiators and wouldn’t recommend them. Never got them setup in a way that felt comfortable. I’m sure skilled 2A players can shred with them but as a novice they didn’t work for me. Edit: Also 5A is super easy to get into compared to anything else and lots of fun. Definitely don’t wait, just slap a CW onto a plastic you don’t mind scuffing up. ---
**Author:** ![MoonageMin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moonagemin/32/67731_2.png) [@MoonageMin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MoonageMin)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 9:12am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buyers-remorse/309894/59 "2019-12-20T09:12:56Z")
Thanks for the advise @Durfee How is looper bearings different from 720 bearings? I do own a couple of counterweights from a FHZ and Hm I would like to say flying monkey? Flying panda? It was named something similar to that a flying something. Might slap one on and give it a go next time I am bored and want to try something different. ---
**Author:** ![twitch77](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/twitch77/32/60219_2.png) [@twitch77](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/twitch77)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 9:16am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buyers-remorse/309894/60 "2019-12-20T09:16:06Z")
> [@MoonageMin](#): > > want to try 5A. > [@Durfee](#): > > 5A is super easy to get into compared to anything else and lots of fun. I know this is a long time away…but the month of May is called 5A May…maybe we can do some freehand tricks for our Trick-A-Week challenge during the month! 😃 I’d love to get into 5A eventually as well. No plans to get into 2A really…though I would like to learn to loop with my right (dominant) hand. [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buyers-remorse/309894.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/buyers-remorse/309894.md?page=4)