# brain twister mount problems

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/brain-twister-mount-problems/22448>\
**Category:** Yo-Yo Tricks\
**Created:** [January 2, 2011, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/brain-twister-mount-problems/22448 "2011-01-02T21:06:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![hazzajepson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b38774/32.png) [@hazzajepson](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hazzajepson)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2011, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/brain-twister-mount-problems/22448/1 "2011-01-02T21:06:46Z")

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Im throwing strong sleepers but when i go into a brain twister or split bottom mount, the yoyo just sequels for a bit and shoots back to my hands really quickly. How do i fix this problem ???

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**Author:** ![smartboy3456](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/smartboy3456/32/510_2.png) [@smartboy3456](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/smartboy3456)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2011, 9:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/brain-twister-mount-problems/22448/2 "2011-01-02T21:48:29Z")

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You’re using a Dark Magic, am I correct?  
Widen the gap of the dark magic by unscrewing it just a little, and try again.  
It could also be how you’re doing the mount. Try centering the strings in the yoyo’s gap and don’t pinch the string.  
If all this doesn’t work, unscrew the yoyo, take out the bearing, and see if there’s any debris stuck in the bearing by removing the bearing shields and inspecting the bearing. Otherwise, you might want to try lubricating your yoyo’s bearing.

How to remove bearing shields:

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P.S. I used a thumbtack

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**Author:** ![hazzajepson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b38774/32.png) [@hazzajepson](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hazzajepson)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2011, 10:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/brain-twister-mount-problems/22448/3 "2011-01-02T22:02:11Z")

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Im not using a dark magic!! Its just my favourite yoyo, it looks cool! Im using a Yo2 crystal triple action yoyo.

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**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2011, 10:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/brain-twister-mount-problems/22448/4 "2011-01-02T22:26:34Z")

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That is an auto-return yoyo. The squeal you hear is more than likely the clutch kicking in forcing the return.

You need to go back and read the advice in your other posts:  
How to make my YO2 sleep longer

> **[How to make my YO2 sleep longer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/forums/index.php/topic,24334.0.html)**
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> Hi guys, for christmas I got a yo2 triple action crystal yoyo and im finding it pretty useful. Im managing to get some basic and some intermediate tricks nailed down and im enjoying learning. However im only getting it to sleep for about 10 seconds...

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**Author:** ![smartboy3456](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/smartboy3456/32/510_2.png) [@smartboy3456](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/smartboy3456)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 1:30am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/brain-twister-mount-problems/22448/5 "2011-01-03T01:30:24Z")

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Like jhb8426&nbsp; said, that yoyo is an auto return yoyo. If you want to turn off the auto return, change the yoyo to “Freespin”. You also might want to consider buying a new ball bearing yoyo.Her’s a great one:[YoYoJam – YoYoExpert](http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/12/YYJ-Lyn-Fury)  
Ball bearings and clutch(auto return) mechanism:  
[YoYoExpert.com - Maintenance - Clutch Mechanism](http://yoyoexpert.com/learn/402-maintenance-clutch-mechanism.html)  
[YoYoExpert.com - Maintenance - Ball Bearing Yo-Yos](http://yoyoexpert.com/learn/405-maintenance-ball-bearing.html)

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**Author:** ![brandoide1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/brandoide1/32/662_2.png) [@brandoide1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/brandoide1)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 2:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/brain-twister-mount-problems/22448/6 "2011-01-04T02:46:50Z")

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That always happened to me. In general, all you have to do is some how make your yoyo LESS responsive. What is happening is the yoyo is “binding,” and you obviously don’t want that now.

NOTE: Around the intermediate section of tricks is about the gateway period of switching to an unresponsive yoyo (at least, that’s when I switched). In your circumstances, I’d learn to [bind](http://yoyoexpert.com/learn/030-intermediate-bind-returns.html/bind), and switch to using your Dark Magic. It is MUCH better than an auto-return yoyo. :wink:

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**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 3:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/brain-twister-mount-problems/22448/7 "2011-01-04T03:33:38Z")

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> [@brandoide1](#):
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> That always happened to me. In general, all you have to do is some how make your yoyo LESS responsive…

You really should take time to read the whole topic before you reply…

The yoyo he’s using is a yomega brain knockoff (auto return). There’s really no way to make it much less responsive. The “bind” you note is the auto return clutch kicking in. And he doesn’t have a DM.

And why is “learn to bind” the advice given 9 out of 10 times when a new guy is having problems with doing a trick???

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**Author:** ![smartboy3456](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/smartboy3456/32/510_2.png) [@smartboy3456](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/smartboy3456)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 4:24am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/brain-twister-mount-problems/22448/8 "2011-01-04T04:24:07Z")

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> [@jhb8426](#):
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> You really should take time to read the whole topic before you reply…
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> And why is “learn to bind” the advice given 9 out of 10 times when a new guy is having problems with doing a trick???

> [@jhb8426](#):
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> You really should take time to read the whole topic before you reply…

Or was it rhetorical?

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**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 4:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/brain-twister-mount-problems/22448/9 "2011-01-04T04:29:34Z")

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> [@smartboy3456](#):
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> Or was it rhetorical?

Nope.

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**Author:** ![hazzajepson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b38774/32.png) [@hazzajepson](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hazzajepson)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/brain-twister-mount-problems/22448/10 "2011-01-04T19:54:21Z")

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So is there no way to fix it. Or do I just buy a better yoyo?

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**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/brain-twister-mount-problems/22448/11 "2011-01-04T22:32:44Z")

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thats an auto yoyo u need a un responsive yoyo

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**Author:** ![RedWarp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/redwarp/32/370_2.png) [@RedWarp](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/RedWarp)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 11:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/brain-twister-mount-problems/22448/12 "2011-01-04T23:13:04Z")

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I’ve personally never tried your auto return yoyo, but I know Yomega Brains really don’t give beginners a ton of time to be learning tricks. I would recommend, if you’re trying to get into some basic string tricks, to get a beginner butterfly-shape yoyo like a [YoYoFactory FAST 201](http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/27/YYF-Fast-201). It’s responsive so it should be an easy transition from your current yoyo, but it’s built for string tricks like the mounts you’re trying to learn.

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**Author:** ![hoggwild89](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/57b2e6/32.png) [@hoggwild89](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hoggwild89)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/brain-twister-mount-problems/22448/13 "2011-01-05T14:54:37Z")

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No offense meant, but you really need to consider a better throw.

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**Author:** ![hazzajepson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b38774/32.png) [@hazzajepson](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hazzajepson)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/brain-twister-mount-problems/22448/14 "2011-01-05T21:43:56Z")

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Sorry (Noob question) Does better throw mean better yoyo or just throwing it better! :-\

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**Author:** ![smartboy3456](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/smartboy3456/32/510_2.png) [@smartboy3456](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/smartboy3456)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 3:09am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/brain-twister-mount-problems/22448/15 "2011-01-06T03:09:59Z")

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In this case, better yoyo, but throw means both sleeper throw and yoyo.
