# bootleg Diff-e-yo's on eBay

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bootleg-diff-e-yos-on-ebay/7656>\
**Category:** General Yo-Yo\
**Created:** [October 22, 2009, 10:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bootleg-diff-e-yos-on-ebay/7656 "2009-10-22T22:47:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ziztur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/ziztur/32/313_2.png) [@Ziztur](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Ziztur)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2009, 10:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bootleg-diff-e-yos-on-ebay/7656/1 "2009-10-22T22:47:19Z")

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Have any of you guys seen these yoyos on eBay that look like bootlegg Diff-e-yos?

[http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-BALL-BEARING-Aluminum-YoYo-5182-silver-HOT\_W0QQitemZ320438948694QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH\_DefaultDomain\_0?hash=item4a9ba65356](http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-BALL-BEARING-Aluminum-YoYo-5182-silver-HOT_W0QQitemZ320438948694QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item4a9ba65356)

![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/0/e/c/0ec63b140374ba704a58fa0c743cb357683313dd.png)  
I am a little frightened by what appears to be the bearing.

![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/0/e/c/0ec63b140374ba704a58fa0c743cb357683313dd.png)

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**Author:** ![JUMP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jump/32/274_2.png) [@JUMP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JUMP)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2009, 11:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bootleg-diff-e-yos-on-ebay/7656/2 "2009-10-22T23:21:09Z")

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I seen these before. They’re not made by Aoda, but some other compeny that’s alot worse.  
With Aoda yoyos, the designs are rip-off’s of YYF yoyos, but at least they’re not IDENTICAL copies.

Okay, maybe they’re not identical, but they’re pretty close. The only thing that’s really missing is the logo on the side post. Someone should really contact Dif-e-Yo about this. This is just wrong. \>:(

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**Author:** ![tyler3490](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/tyler3490/32/77_2.png) [@tyler3490](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/tyler3490)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2009, 11:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bootleg-diff-e-yos-on-ebay/7656/3 "2009-10-22T23:24:51Z")

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> [@JUMP](#):
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> I seen these before. They’re not made by Aoda, but some other compeny that’s alot worse.  
> With Aoda yoyos, the designs are rip-off’s of YYF yoyos, but at least they’re not IDENTICAL copies.
> 
> Okay, maybe they’re not identical, but they’re pretty close. The only thing that’s really missing is the logo on the side post. Someone should really contact Dif-e-Yo about this. This is just wrong. \>:(

and the kk, and the dif pads

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**Author:** ![muchacho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f475e1/32.png) [@muchacho](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/muchacho)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2009, 11:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bootleg-diff-e-yos-on-ebay/7656/4 "2009-10-22T23:31:26Z")

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if that is an american company, dif e yo could sue  
someone should get it  
only a buck or so  
could be evidence 8)

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**Author:** ![mikey77](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mikey77/32/48_2.png) [@mikey77](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mikey77)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2009, 11:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bootleg-diff-e-yos-on-ebay/7656/5 "2009-10-22T23:39:46Z")

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There’s a bunch of bootlegs like Aoda, Auldey, and more.

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**Author:** ![muchacho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f475e1/32.png) [@muchacho](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/muchacho)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2009, 11:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bootleg-diff-e-yos-on-ebay/7656/6 "2009-10-22T23:43:50Z")

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theryre all foreign so patent rules dont apply

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**Author:** ![JUMP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jump/32/274_2.png) [@JUMP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JUMP)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2009, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bootleg-diff-e-yos-on-ebay/7656/7 "2009-10-22T23:46:17Z")

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> [@tyler3490](#):
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> > [@JUMP](#):
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> > I seen these before. They’re not made by Aoda, but some other compeny that’s alot worse.  
> > With Aoda yoyos, the designs are rip-off’s of YYF yoyos, but at least they’re not IDENTICAL copies.
> > 
> > Okay, maybe they’re not identical, but they’re pretty close. The only thing that’s really missing is the logo on the side post. Someone should really contact Dif-e-Yo about this. This is just wrong. \>:(
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> and the kk, and the dif pads

Sorry, forgot about those. Instead of pads, it has the saddest looking starburst I’ve ever seen. And that bearing? WTF???

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**Author:** ![Ziztur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/ziztur/32/313_2.png) [@Ziztur](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Ziztur)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2009, 12:20am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bootleg-diff-e-yos-on-ebay/7656/8 "2009-10-23T00:20:04Z")

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Curiosity got me, so I just bid on one.

It’s mine!!! Don’t outbid me! :🙂 ;D

LOL…

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**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2009, 12:24am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bootleg-diff-e-yos-on-ebay/7656/9 "2009-10-23T00:24:55Z")

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HOw much did you bid? Oh and Dif’s are the most solid throw’s ever.

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**Author:** ![ape7566](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a4c791/32.png) [@ape7566](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ape7566)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2009, 12:36am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bootleg-diff-e-yos-on-ebay/7656/10 "2009-10-23T00:36:14Z")

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if I recall correctly theis are pressed steel and are real junk. They look sad and need to be put out of there misery.

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**Author:** ![Ziztur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/ziztur/32/313_2.png) [@Ziztur](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Ziztur)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2009, 1:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bootleg-diff-e-yos-on-ebay/7656/11 "2009-10-23T01:01:29Z")

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I bid $1.50.

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**Author:** ![GorrillaYo808](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gorrillayo808/32/282_2.png) [@GorrillaYo808](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GorrillaYo808)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2009, 6:53am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bootleg-diff-e-yos-on-ebay/7656/12 "2009-10-23T06:53:52Z")

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> [@Ziztur](#):
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> I bid $1.50.

lol…still though i wouldn’t buy it ;D

~gorrilla\_yo

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**Author:** ![\_zachary\_63](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/f475e1/32.png) [@\_zachary\_63](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/_zachary_63)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2009, 6:55am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bootleg-diff-e-yos-on-ebay/7656/13 "2009-10-23T06:55:13Z")

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did u buy it yet? if so, how good is it? im curious too 🙂

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**Author:** ![Brad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/brad/32/184_2.png) [@Brad](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Brad)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2009, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bootleg-diff-e-yos-on-ebay/7656/14 "2009-10-23T17:10:14Z")

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As long as they don’t soak you $10 for shipping, I guess why not - I saw them before, but yeah the guts looked horrible, I didn’t think it was worth the time. Hope it works out though.

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**Author:** ![Mattylightning](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mattylightning/32/205_2.png) [@Mattylightning](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mattylightning)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2009, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bootleg-diff-e-yos-on-ebay/7656/15 "2009-10-23T19:17:26Z")

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that bearing looks like a small land mine…

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**Author:** ![muchacho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f475e1/32.png) [@muchacho](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/muchacho)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2009, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bootleg-diff-e-yos-on-ebay/7656/16 "2009-10-23T20:57:03Z")

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> [@Mattylightning](#):
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> that bearing looks like a small land mine…

lol

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**Author:** ![Ziztur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/ziztur/32/313_2.png) [@Ziztur](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Ziztur)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bootleg-diff-e-yos-on-ebay/7656/17 "2009-10-24T17:12:39Z")

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Someone actually outbid me… for what reason I shall never know. So I bid on a different one. It’s worth it for me to buy this think for the LOL’s - it will be fun to post pics of it here for all to see.

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**Author:** ![Ziztur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/ziztur/32/313_2.png) [@Ziztur](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Ziztur)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 11:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bootleg-diff-e-yos-on-ebay/7656/18 "2009-10-24T23:09:01Z")

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Now, all of the seller’s auctions have ended and I got an email from eBay Loss and Prevention telling me not to send the seller any money.

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**Author:** ![Mattylightning](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mattylightning/32/205_2.png) [@Mattylightning](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mattylightning)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 11:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bootleg-diff-e-yos-on-ebay/7656/19 "2009-10-24T23:13:46Z")

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aww LAME!

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**Author:** ![kyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/df705f/32.png) [@kyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kyo)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 11:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bootleg-diff-e-yos-on-ebay/7656/20 "2009-10-24T23:37:34Z")

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even if this was an american company… there is precisely nothing you could really do about it…

shape isn’t patentable…

‘design’ patents cover the overall ‘look’ of a product but they would be very hard to enforce… plus there would have to actually be one (which in this case there is not)

Anything with a KK bearing you might have a case for on that… as it is patented… but there are large loopholes, as proven by the yyf bearings.

Kyle

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