# BLTyoyoworks, 3rd run of prototypes finished!

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**Category:** Up & Coming Manufacturers\
**Created:** [January 16, 2012, 1:40am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bltyoyoworks-3rd-run-of-prototypes-finished/33901 "2012-01-16T01:40:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![ThePants](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/thepants/32/99249_2.png) [@ThePants](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ThePants)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2012, 4:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bltyoyoworks-3rd-run-of-prototypes-finished/33901/41 "2012-02-19T16:52:48Z")

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> [@firespitter](#):
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> okay, so were finally making actual working designs with the correct balance, weight etc.  
> im doping it in auto cad, but for some reason the command that everyone recommends for calculating volume isn’t working, so even if we can start prototyping, we will still not know what the weight distribution is.

This is why usually people either pay someone to do this, or go to college for it. And just so you don’t run into this issue like so many other companies have… Don’t make your walls any thinner than 2mm at any point in the yoyo of you’ll be able to bend the halfs themself when screwing the yo-yo together, or you’ll have hub blow outs like with the original YYF GM2s

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**Author:** ![888alltheway](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/888alltheway/32/798_2.png) [@888alltheway](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/888alltheway)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2012, 5:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bltyoyoworks-3rd-run-of-prototypes-finished/33901/42 "2012-02-19T17:33:22Z")

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> [@ThePants](#):
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> Don’t make your walls any thinner than 2mm at any point in the yoyo of you’ll be able to bend the halfs themself when screwing the yo-yo together, or you’ll have hub blow outs like with the original YYF GM2s

Unless, you know…Mr.Firespitter wants to make a Titanium.

Maybe the walls can be be thinner if it was 7075 Aluminum? My YYR Gleipnir’s walls are definitely much thinner than 2mm. Or maybe it’s structurally unsafe? The walls definitely feel +/- 1mm or so.

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**Author:** ![firespitter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/firespitter/32/1056_2.png) [@firespitter](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/firespitter)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2012, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bltyoyoworks-3rd-run-of-prototypes-finished/33901/43 "2012-02-19T18:50:45Z")

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are you sure its 2mm? I’ve seen plenty of the actual cads of yo-yos, and they’re all plenty thinner than 2mm

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**Author:** ![firespitter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/firespitter/32/1056_2.png) [@firespitter](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/firespitter)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2012, 11:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bltyoyoworks-3rd-run-of-prototypes-finished/33901/44 "2012-02-19T23:03:17Z")

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and one more thing, i heard that one drop does manufacturing for other companies as well. do any of you know anything about this? costs maybe?

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**Author:** ![dingo54](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8baadc/32.png) [@dingo54](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/dingo54)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2012, 11:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bltyoyoworks-3rd-run-of-prototypes-finished/33901/45 "2012-02-19T23:07:42Z")

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> [@firespitter](#):
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> and one more thing, i heard that one drop does manufacturing for other companies as well. do any of you know anything about this? costs maybe?

Email them. Btw they make the canvas

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**Author:** ![luquita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/luquita/32/108275_2.png) [@luquita](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/luquita)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 6:26am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bltyoyoworks-3rd-run-of-prototypes-finished/33901/46 "2012-02-21T06:26:32Z")

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Hi all I am the L in BLTyoyoworks and we have been working on designs all weekend long. We were wondering if anyone knew anything at all about manufacturing axle systems. For instance at what point do you decide how long the axle will be/ how wide it will be? We really need help on the mater so any help at all would be appreciated, thanks.  
BTW firepsitter will vogue for me on this, I really am part of BLTyoyoworks.

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**Author:** ![888alltheway](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/888alltheway/32/798_2.png) [@888alltheway](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/888alltheway)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 7:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bltyoyoworks-3rd-run-of-prototypes-finished/33901/47 "2012-02-21T07:05:49Z")

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Well, axle length greatly depends on how you want the weight distributed, and whether you want it to not strip.

CLYW’s have longer axles (less stripping and more center weight) than Yoyorecreation yoyo’s, which have REALLY short axles(More rim-focused, likelier to strip).

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**Author:** ![firespitter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/firespitter/32/1056_2.png) [@firespitter](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/firespitter)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 3:09am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bltyoyoworks-3rd-run-of-prototypes-finished/33901/48 "2012-02-22T03:09:38Z")

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okay, so here are a few pics of the final design for what will likely be our first release. it wasn’t one of the designs i posted earlier, this one we made later, but we do have 3 others that we will probably also do that were on the list. i may post those as well.

 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/1/1/a/11a8942e5f7aa6501bd28623002a697bcaaf5126.png)  
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what do you guys think?

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**Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 8:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bltyoyoworks-3rd-run-of-prototypes-finished/33901/49 "2012-02-22T20:12:56Z")

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> [@firespitter](#):
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> okay, so here are a few pics of the final design for what will likely be our first release. it wasn’t one of the designs i posted earlier, this one we made later, but we do have 3 others that we will probably also do that were on the list. i may post those as well.  
> [Imgur: The magic of the Internet](http://i.imgur.com/e6Bau.png)  
> [Imgur: The magic of the Internet](http://i.imgur.com/9Xvpu.png)  
> [Imgur: The magic of the Internet](http://i.imgur.com/OZI49.png)  
> [Imgur: The magic of the Internet](http://i.imgur.com/2VBbR.png)  
> [Imgur: The magic of the Internet](http://i.imgur.com/R2Dxn.png)  
> what do you guys think?

i like the design. do you have the specs yet?

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**Post date:** [February 23, 2012, 3:44am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bltyoyoworks-3rd-run-of-prototypes-finished/33901/50 "2012-02-23T03:44:53Z")

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diameter of about 55 mm  
width of 50.606 mm I think)  
weight hasn’t been done yet, sorry

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**Post date:** [February 23, 2012, 3:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bltyoyoworks-3rd-run-of-prototypes-finished/33901/51 "2012-02-23T03:48:31Z")

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The shape I like… the distribution still looks a bit awkaward to me

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**Post date:** [February 23, 2012, 3:56am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bltyoyoworks-3rd-run-of-prototypes-finished/33901/52 "2012-02-23T03:56:11Z")

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yeah the rims need to be thinned

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**Post date:** [February 23, 2012, 6:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bltyoyoworks-3rd-run-of-prototypes-finished/33901/53 "2012-02-23T06:00:02Z")

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I agree

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**Post date:** [February 25, 2012, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bltyoyoworks-3rd-run-of-prototypes-finished/33901/54 "2012-02-25T20:32:59Z")

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Actually I kind of like it.

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**Post date:** [February 25, 2012, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bltyoyoworks-3rd-run-of-prototypes-finished/33901/55 "2012-02-25T21:36:28Z")

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oops too late i thinned them a bit already. think you’ll still like it though.

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**Post date:** [February 25, 2012, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bltyoyoworks-3rd-run-of-prototypes-finished/33901/56 "2012-02-25T21:39:55Z")

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> [@firespitter](#):
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> oops too late i thinned them a bit already. think you’ll still like it though.

Ya man this thing looks sick!

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2012, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bltyoyoworks-3rd-run-of-prototypes-finished/33901/57 "2012-02-26T18:01:07Z")

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ok guys, i actually got better specs now.  
diameter of about 55 mm  
width of 42.854 mm  
gap width of 4.1 mm  
size c bearing  
still don’t know the weight, but I’m working on it.  
also, we might be selling a proto or two. around 60-70 dollars (for one) is what i hope to get, though i know i likely won’t get that high.

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2012, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bltyoyoworks-3rd-run-of-prototypes-finished/33901/58 "2012-02-26T20:00:20Z")

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That high? I’ll be surprised if you keep out that low. Have you looked into prices yet?

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**Post date:** [February 27, 2012, 2:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bltyoyoworks-3rd-run-of-prototypes-finished/33901/59 "2012-02-27T02:05:28Z")

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what do you mean? that we could sell them for more? i doubt it. if you mean when we get them made, alvin from fox land yo-yos offered $300 for 4 protos. if we sold all 4 (which i doubt we will) after we test them, then if we got $75 each, then we’d get 100% money back.

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**Post date:** [February 27, 2012, 2:41am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bltyoyoworks-3rd-run-of-prototypes-finished/33901/60 "2012-02-27T02:41:10Z")

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> [@firespitter](#):
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> what do you mean? that we could sell them for more? i doubt it. if you mean when we get them made, alvin from fox land yo-yos offered $300 for 4 protos. if we sold all 4 (which i doubt we will) after we test them, then if we got $75 each, then we’d get 100% money back.

thats definitely a reasonable price. by selling the protos, were you planning on asking for feedback? or is it just to sell them?

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