# Black Hops and Spirit Bomb **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Tricks\ **Created:** [February 27, 2014, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/black-hops-and-spirit-bomb/64195 "2014-02-27T09:56:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![chaelfosho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3da27b/32.png) [@chaelfosho](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/chaelfosho)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2014, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/black-hops-and-spirit-bomb/64195/1 "2014-02-27T09:56:34Z")
I always get a extra twisted string(turning into a knot after) after the second pop in the Spirit bomb where you will shoot the yoyo into the triangle. and in Black Hops I need help chopping the 4th chop. it seems that it doesnt fit or the string lenght is not enough even though i use a really long string ---
**Author:** ![sean.sutt10](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@sean.sutt10](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sean.sutt10)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2014, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/black-hops-and-spirit-bomb/64195/2 "2014-02-27T15:54:18Z")
> [@Spirit Bomb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/spirit-bomb/64192/3): > > That’s happened to me a few times. > > Your problem is in the second pop. When you split your index and thumb, make sure that the triangle formed is not corked forwards or backwards. That is what will give you the dismount knot. > > Imagine dismounting a GT from the wrong side. That’s what you’ll get; but more complicated > > [[[[When I learned it, I though you had to drag a string on your thumb from the first pop to the second to open up that triangle, but it turns out that you just have to drop that and grab the closest string to your thumb, mid-pop.]]]] > > Try doing what you normally do and examine the crux of the triangle on your left (near the middle of your hands). Remember that. Then do it again but try and slow down the pop as much as is comfortable to see exactly what strings you are spreading, then let the yoyo fall in front of all the strings instead of through the triangle (examine that if you want). Then, manually hop the yoyo into the triangle as you normally would and examine that triangle crux again. If you don’t find a difference between the your way and mine, then I don’t know what else to say. > > Let me know how that works out for you. Hey this is just what was posted when I had the same, problem it helped a ton. good luck man and may the yo be with you. ---
**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2014, 3:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/black-hops-and-spirit-bomb/64195/3 "2014-02-27T15:57:45Z")
For me, if I do the first pop with my palm facing more or less upwards, the triangle doesn’t need any particular fussing-with. It just stays in the right place. The tip of the thumb should already be more or less in the right spot to be inside the triangle for the second pop. ---
**Author:** ![chaelfosho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3da27b/32.png) [@chaelfosho](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/chaelfosho)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2014, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/black-hops-and-spirit-bomb/64195/4 "2014-03-01T19:14:15Z")
Thanks! what about black hops ---
**Author:** ![yairhonig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/9d8465/32.png) [@yairhonig](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yairhonig)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2014, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/black-hops-and-spirit-bomb/64195/5 "2014-03-01T21:06:43Z")
in black hops i had the same problem for start use your thumb to make more place for the yoyo ---
**Author:** ![abby1371](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/abby1371/32/1075_2.png) [@abby1371](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/abby1371)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2014, 4:16am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/black-hops-and-spirit-bomb/64195/6 "2014-03-04T04:16:02Z")
I found when I was learning Black hops is longer than normal string for yourself helps to give more room for your fingers to move. ---
**Author:** ![Jgarcia05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Jgarcia05](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jgarcia05)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 2:08am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/black-hops-and-spirit-bomb/64195/7 "2014-03-06T02:08:56Z")
Watch the video tutorial that yotricks has. I found that to be the easiest way to get the triangle open when doing the second hop on spirit bomb. Keep us updated. ---
**Author:** ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 11:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/black-hops-and-spirit-bomb/64195/8 "2014-03-06T23:28:15Z")
Black hops came for me with a TON of practice. I spent so much time on it but did not get it until I stopped practicing for a while. Then I tried it one day a few months later and got it. Okay, so now for some tips: when you pop it up, don’t jab your finger into the string; just slowly push your finger into the string so that you have time to land it on to the string. Also, you could practice with a long-ish string.