# Binding Troubleshooting
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/binding-troubleshooting/393
**Category:** Yo-Yo Tricks
**Created:** [January 22, 2009, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/binding-troubleshooting/393 "2009-01-22T18:57:47Z")
**Posts on this page:** 12
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### Author:  [@JoeSchmo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JoeSchmo)
#### Post date: [January 22, 2009, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/binding-troubleshooting/393/1 "2009-01-22T18:57:47Z")
Hi all – sorry for so many posts about how I suck with my tricks, but you are my go-to people for problems. I am learning all of this by myself and it is great to have a group to go to to get help. You have all been great!
Anyway, I am learning a front mount bind and it seems that almost everytime the yoyo comes back, I am left with a tail. In other words, a loop of string is sticking out of the coil of string in the middle of the yoyo. I’ve tried different things like making a smaller loop on the bind (duh!) and pulling my throw hand harder on the return. Nothing really works well.
Any tips?
Thanks!!
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### Author:  [@Rice](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Rice)
#### Post date: [January 22, 2009, 8:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/binding-troubleshooting/393/2 "2009-01-22T20:29:11Z")
Same thing happen to me. I thought it was suppose to be like that. lol
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### Author:  [@JoeSchmo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JoeSchmo)
#### Post date: [January 22, 2009, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/binding-troubleshooting/393/3 "2009-01-22T20:51:48Z")
HaHa – I am starting to think so too! Every once in a while I do get it right, though.
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### Author:  [@BrickM3](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/BrickM3)
#### Post date: [January 22, 2009, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/binding-troubleshooting/393/4 "2009-01-22T22:07:32Z")
When I do a front bind, I tend to throw the loop down and over the yoyo while pulling (almost like wrapping around the yoyo, but releasing). I occasionally get a tail, but not too often.
I’ll try to explain further if this is unclear, but I don’t want to get convoluted.
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### Author:  [@Samad](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Samad)
#### Post date: [January 22, 2009, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/binding-troubleshooting/393/5 "2009-01-22T23:23:35Z")
The answer is actually pretty simple. Just use a smaller loop when you bind. Not dramatically smaller, but just test out how little you need to use before you find your perfect binding length 🙂
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### Author:  [@JoeSchmo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JoeSchmo)
#### Post date: [January 22, 2009, 11:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/binding-troubleshooting/393/6 "2009-01-22T23:39:00Z")
Samad–
Thanks. Problem is that is seems like when I make a small loop, somehow it gets bigger by the tim eit winds up. Like the yoyo slips or something…
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### Author:  [@Robert2393](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Robert2393)
#### Post date: [January 22, 2009, 11:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/binding-troubleshooting/393/7 "2009-01-22T23:50:03Z")
it really wont mess with the yoyo. it should be fine if you have a loop.
keep it spinning
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### Author:  [@VeloPity](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/VeloPity)
#### Post date: [January 24, 2009, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/binding-troubleshooting/393/8 "2009-01-24T11:14:05Z")
Some binds just tend to leave a tail after you do them. That’s caused by the spinning direction of the yo-yo. If you make a bind from a braintwister mount, it doesn’t come back as smoothly as from the other side and often leaves a tail. If you want to get rid of the tail, simply learn to do bind from the ‘reverse’ side. It’s harder at first, but in the end it’s much smoother way to return the yo-yo than from front mount/braintwister mount.
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### Author:  [@PianoYoYo101](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PianoYoYo101)
#### Post date: [January 25, 2009, 1:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/binding-troubleshooting/393/9 "2009-01-25T13:51:47Z")
When I bind, I start the yoyo at my throwhand, and then let it slide down the string. by the time it gets to the bottom, it binds without the extra loop.
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### Author:  [@Samad](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Samad)
#### Post date: [January 25, 2009, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/binding-troubleshooting/393/10 "2009-01-25T17:02:47Z")
Wait, what mount are you binding from? ???
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### Author:  [@yoyofreak11](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyofreak11)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2009, 9:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/binding-troubleshooting/393/11 "2009-01-28T21:53:17Z")
I had the same problem too, until I took Samad’s advice and made a smaller loop and now I’m good to go! Thanks Samad!
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### Author:  [@Samad](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Samad)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2009, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/binding-troubleshooting/393/12 "2009-01-28T22:43:42Z")
Haha, no problem. Glad I could help 😃
Have Fun Throwing,
~Samad