# binding problems **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Tricks\ **Created:** [June 28, 2009, 5:32am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/binding-problems/3704 "2009-06-28T05:32:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![bonsai86xx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9c0ed/32.png) [@bonsai86xx](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/bonsai86xx)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2009, 5:32am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/binding-problems/3704/1 "2009-06-28T05:32:27Z")
hey i just starting throwing and i picked up a DM. i can bind when i have it responsive but as soon as i open up the gap a little my binds don’t work. i even try to double bind it but it just doesn’t catch. any suggestions? ??? ---
**Author:** ![Samad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/samad/32/19_2.png) [@Samad](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Samad)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2009, 5:40am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/binding-problems/3704/2 "2009-06-28T05:40:58Z")
Keep the gap closed, or use a bigger gap when you bind. ---
**Author:** ![Kim-Lan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kim-lan/32/16_2.png) [@Kim-Lan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Kim-Lan)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2009, 5:42am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/binding-problems/3704/3 "2009-06-28T05:42:23Z")
> [@Samad](#): > > Keep the gap closed or use a bigger loop when you bind. Fixed for you. ---
**Author:** ![rsmod123](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rsmod123/32/46_2.png) [@rsmod123](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rsmod123)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2009, 5:44am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/binding-problems/3704/4 "2009-06-28T05:44:52Z")
Also make sure that you pull the loop down hard, and pull your throwhand up when doing the bind. People are going to say that its not needed, but it is a good habit to form when you move on to a metal yoyo. Practice your binding. ---
**Author:** ![bonsai86xx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9c0ed/32.png) [@bonsai86xx](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/bonsai86xx)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2009, 5:53am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/binding-problems/3704/5 "2009-06-28T05:53:32Z")
thanks ill definitely try it out and let ya know how it goes but how would using a bigger gap help my binding like samad suggested? ---
**Author:** ![rsmod123](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rsmod123/32/46_2.png) [@rsmod123](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rsmod123)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2009, 5:54am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/binding-problems/3704/6 "2009-06-28T05:54:49Z")
> [@bonsai86xx](#): > > thanks ill definitely try it out and let ya know how it goes but how would using a bigger gap help my binding like samad suggested? No, use a smaller gap. Use the tightest gap possible, but don’t overtighten. Use a bigger loop. As in when you’re in a trapeze or brain twister, make the string that you’re holding on to bigger. ---
**Author:** ![JM1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jm1/32/135_2.png) [@JM1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JM1)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2009, 9:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/binding-problems/3704/7 "2009-06-28T21:47:26Z")
When you open up the gap to allow for more layers and still want to bind, make sure you use a bigger loop AND pull the loop all the way down (almost 180 degrees) ---
**Author:** ![ZdProjects](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/258eb7/32.png) [@ZdProjects](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ZdProjects)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2009, 4:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/binding-problems/3704/8 "2009-06-29T04:29:45Z")
One thing that helps me out a lot is keeping my non throw hand still with the loop and pulling my throw hand up and releasing my non throw hand at the last second. I never get knots. BTW this is the bind that doesn’t use the brain twister mount.