# Binding Help!

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/binding-help/5894>\
**Category:** Yo-Yo Tricks\
**Created:** [August 27, 2009, 3:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/binding-help/5894 "2009-08-27T03:35:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![lordfungus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b5e925/32.png) [@lordfungus](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/lordfungus)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 3:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/binding-help/5894/1 "2009-08-27T03:35:15Z")

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Hey all,  
Trying to learn how to bind on a DM. Problem is that, for the bind to work, I need the yo to spin at a good fast spin. I’m just starting out and my yo has thick lube so it doesn’t spin like the DM in these training videos. Any suggestions? I feel like I’m still clumsy with the control of the yo. Please help…

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**Author:** ![polloyoyo12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/dec6dc/32.png) [@polloyoyo12](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/polloyoyo12)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 3:41am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/binding-help/5894/2 "2009-08-27T03:41:19Z")

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if you want it to be unresponsive so yo can learn to bind clean the bearing and apply a drop of thin lube and to bind easier try to make the loop you thread into the gap bigger

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**Author:** ![DarthVaughn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c4cdca/32.png) [@DarthVaughn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DarthVaughn)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/binding-help/5894/3 "2009-08-27T11:51:33Z")

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make sure youre doing a “fake” bind. make the loop, like polloyoyo said, quite large and feed it back into the yoyo and pull up with your throwhand, and .005 seconds later you throw the loop into the gap.  
look up grawrd. good bind tut. hope this helps. ;D

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**Author:** ![rsmod123](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rsmod123/32/46_2.png) [@rsmod123](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rsmod123)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/binding-help/5894/4 "2009-08-27T12:28:45Z")

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Make sure you are doing backspin binds, and don’t use too big of a loop (Not too small either. Just practice and see what does it best.)

Frontspin binds tend to get knots more often, which is why you see that whenever Andre does a rolling bind, he throws it down once before he throws hard.

[http://vimeo.com/1713012](http://vimeo.com/1713012)

When you do sleepers, use an overmount bind. (trapeze)  
When doing breakaways, use an undermount bind. (Braintwister)

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**Author:** ![byafriend](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3e96dc/32.png) [@byafriend](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/byafriend)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/binding-help/5894/5 "2009-08-27T13:00:11Z")

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My friend and I have no problem with binding even with brand new unseasoned bearings. The problem is practice! Practise hard and you can do it. You will not need the yoyo to spin fast for binding if you practise well. Do not do a big ring and ify ou practise well, the bind will not have a loop coming out.

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**Author:** ![kukumalu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b38774/32.png) [@kukumalu](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kukumalu)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/binding-help/5894/6 "2009-08-27T14:30:16Z")

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hey i need some help on binding too. i’d say nowadays my binds have around 60-70% success rates. when they fail, its usually the yoyo just slipping back down without snagging, or i put too much string in and i get a knot or a ‘tail’…

tips? btw i’m using a yyj speeder (double o-rings) on the tightest setting… should be the most responsive but still…

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**Author:** ![ibanezcollector](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7ea924/32.png) [@ibanezcollector](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ibanezcollector)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/binding-help/5894/7 "2009-08-27T14:38:16Z")

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hope this helps a little… Its a tutorial I did on three different binds.

[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVK5ovNe3vA)

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**Author:** ![AeroSlaYa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AeroSlaYa](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AeroSlaYa)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/binding-help/5894/8 "2009-08-27T15:08:18Z")

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here’s a vid not by me though hope it helps

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/3/7/6/3769f20b9c74a7c7d5eeada7bd9bdcd858d1c211.jpeg "HOW TO BIND") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttUcZUiS4K4)

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**Author:** ![Brad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/brad/32/184_2.png) [@Brad](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Brad)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/binding-help/5894/9 "2009-08-27T20:20:18Z")

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> [@DarthVaughn](#):
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> make sure youre doing a “fake” bind. make the loop, like polloyoyo said, quite large and feed it back into the yoyo and pull up with your throwhand, and .005 seconds later you throw the loop into the gap.  
> look up grawrd. good bind tut. hope this helps. ;D

If you’re throwing the loop into the gap, you’re not doing a fake bind. On a fake bind, you’re letting the string wrap around the axle and then just letting go with your non throw hand.
