# Bind problems. **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Tricks\ **Created:** [November 5, 2009, 9:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bind-problems/8071 "2009-11-05T21:09:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DreadAlert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@DreadAlert](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DreadAlert)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 9:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bind-problems/8071/1 "2009-11-05T21:09:28Z")
Hey guys. Whenever I try to do a bind, no matter which, when it returns to my hand, theres a line of twisted string hanging out of the centre of the yoyo. The rest of the string is rolled up normally, but theres this line of twisted string. If i then try to throw it straight after binding, with the twisted string hanging out, it jams mid-throw and just stops. I then have to untangle it and wind it up normally. And then repeat. I’ve tried 2 different types of string, more than one of each. Really really annoying me. I can’t yoyo like this. I’m playing a YYF Velocity if it helps, with the stock string or some Chaos 122 strings. Please help. Thanks - DreadAlert. ---
**Author:** ![Pheenix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pheenix/32/65_2.png) [@Pheenix](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Pheenix)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bind-problems/8071/2 "2009-11-05T21:17:30Z")
You will learn to bind cleaner with time. Smaller loop=less tangle You can dial it to be less grippy if you want to. ---
**Author:** ![DreadAlert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@DreadAlert](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DreadAlert)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bind-problems/8071/3 "2009-11-05T21:23:51Z")
i know, but I even do small loops sometimes with a backspin trapeze bind, but it still twists! \>:( ---
**Author:** ![ikillu7980](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/ikillu7980/32/260_2.png) [@ikillu7980](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ikillu7980)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 10:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bind-problems/8071/4 "2009-11-05T22:26:19Z")
The binding loop thingy is too big, so it gets tangled like that ---
**Author:** ![Mage1342](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mage1342/32/75_2.png) [@Mage1342](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mage1342)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 10:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bind-problems/8071/5 "2009-11-05T22:39:38Z")
> [@DreadAlert](#): > > i know, but I even do small loops sometimes with a backspin trapeze bind, but it still twists! \>:( The twist is due to string tension and there will pretty much always have a loop sticking out somewhere. The string sticking out is not much to worry about unless it starts to get in the way of throwing. ---
**Author:** ![DreadAlert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@DreadAlert](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DreadAlert)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 10:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bind-problems/8071/6 "2009-11-05T22:50:37Z")
> [@Mark](#): > > > [@DreadAlert](#): > > > > i know, but I even do small loops sometimes with a backspin trapeze bind, but it still twists! \>:( > > The twist is due to string tension and there will pretty much always have a loop sticking out somewhere. The string sticking out is not much to worry about unless it starts to get in the way of throwing. It really is. If I throw, bind, and then throw again, that second throw doesn’t work. I have to wind up, and then repeat. Really annoying. ---
**Author:** ![Mage1342](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mage1342/32/75_2.png) [@Mage1342](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mage1342)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 10:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bind-problems/8071/7 "2009-11-05T22:59:53Z")
It might just be getting stuck from a large loop are bad string tension. I would see if the tension is good and avoid large loops. Also, try throwing more than that second time. ---
**Author:** ![DreadAlert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@DreadAlert](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DreadAlert)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 11:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bind-problems/8071/8 "2009-11-05T23:14:59Z")
I can’t throw more than the two times without winding it because after it gets stuck on the second one, I have to untangle the string. And my string tension is fine. I’ll straighten it out, try again, but it still messes up. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![StevenYoYos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/stevenyoyos/32/30_2.png) [@StevenYoYos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/StevenYoYos)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 11:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bind-problems/8071/9 "2009-11-05T23:33:21Z")
Try making the loop smalling but by making it smaller you have to snap it down harder to make it bind. ---
**Author:** ![yoyoandrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/45deac/32.png) [@yoyoandrew](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoandrew)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 11:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bind-problems/8071/10 "2009-11-05T23:44:24Z")
mine does that somtimes to its just a matter of were the yoyo is on the string when you bind ---
**Author:** ![peacockyoyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/peacockyoyo/32/310_2.png) [@peacockyoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/peacockyoyo)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bind-problems/8071/11 "2009-11-05T23:46:35Z")
basically this has happened to every person who has ever done a bind try either making the bind smaller or just keep practicing ---
**Author:** ![Batryn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/batryn/32/78_2.png) [@Batryn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Batryn)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 11:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bind-problems/8071/12 "2009-11-05T23:58:02Z")
Pinch the string when you bind. ---
**Author:** ![DreadAlert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@DreadAlert](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DreadAlert)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 12:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bind-problems/8071/13 "2009-11-06T00:05:01Z")
> [@yoyoandrew](#): > > mine does that somtimes to its just a matter of were the yoyo is on the string when you bind Where has it got to be for the bind to work properly? ---
**Author:** ![djqsrv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@djqsrv](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/djqsrv)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bind-problems/8071/14 "2009-11-06T14:18:55Z")
There really is no specific place it needs to be to be successful. It seems that everyone binds just a little different. There are just way to many variables to give super specifics. Unfortunately the only advice I can give is the same as you have heard already. Try to bind with a smaller loop of string. Back binds usually tend to snag and knot up much less then forward spin binds. Binding is like anything else. Practice will make you much better at it. Keep at it and you will be binding without snags in no time. ---
**Author:** ![AeroSlaYa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AeroSlaYa](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AeroSlaYa)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bind-problems/8071/15 "2009-11-06T14:36:26Z")
well reayll its just practice. later on with practice you’ll nevwr have the same problem For binding: > **[A Guide to Binding](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/forums/index.php/topic,6880.0.html)** > > Well in the 1 month I’ve been here I’ve seen so many people asking for help to Bind so I decided to write a guide for all you beginners: Ok binding is a technique where you return an unresponsive yoyo to your hand.  Normally, in a bind you... For string tension: > **[A Guide to change your String Tension](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/forums/index.php/topic,6883.0.html)** > > Here’s my final Guide for all the beginners: Getting your string tension just right is essential to Yoyo play.  Too tight and your yoyo will get reponsive.Too loose and your yoyo will fly out of the string!!!  Here’re some vid and... Hand winding is so boring: > **[A Guide to Hand Start a dead Yoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/forums/index.php/topic,6881.0.html)** > > Snap Starting a yoyo is a hard thing to learn, but pays off in the end.  It look more proffesional than hand winding and is a lot quicker.  Here are some turoials and videos to help the learning process. Please visit my String Tension...