# Bimetal with weight ring encased inside the yoyo?

**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bimetal-with-weight-ring-encased-inside-the-yoyo/79815
**Category:** General Yo-Yo
**Created:** [March 25, 2016, 4:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bimetal-with-weight-ring-encased-inside-the-yoyo/79815 "2016-03-25T16:06:34Z")
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#### Post date: [March 25, 2016, 4:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bimetal-with-weight-ring-encased-inside-the-yoyo/79815/1 "2016-03-25T16:06:34Z")

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How do you encase the ring inside the throw?

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#### Post date: [March 25, 2016, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bimetal-with-weight-ring-encased-inside-the-yoyo/79815/2 "2016-03-25T16:12:55Z")

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I guess the yo-yo would have to be molded… What yo-yo are you talking about? Or is this just an “is it possible” thread?

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#### Post date: [March 25, 2016, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bimetal-with-weight-ring-encased-inside-the-yoyo/79815/3 "2016-03-25T17:01:26Z")

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#### Post date: [March 25, 2016, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bimetal-with-weight-ring-encased-inside-the-yoyo/79815/4 "2016-03-25T17:58:03Z")

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it would not be possible in a metal yoyo however if it was an injection molded plastic yo yo it might.

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#### Post date: [March 25, 2016, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bimetal-with-weight-ring-encased-inside-the-yoyo/79815/5 "2016-03-25T18:58:21Z")

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Actually, you could put them on the inside with the same technique used to put them on the outside: proper machining tolerances and a press fit.

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#### Post date: [March 25, 2016, 6:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bimetal-with-weight-ring-encased-inside-the-yoyo/79815/6 "2016-03-25T18:59:58Z")

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> [@YoYoExpert Garrett](#):
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> I guess the yo-yo would have to be molded… What yo-yo are you talking about?&nbsp; Or is this just an “is it possible” thread?

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This is the only one I know of.

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#### Post date: [March 25, 2016, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bimetal-with-weight-ring-encased-inside-the-yoyo/79815/7 "2016-03-25T19:02:09Z")

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I know tis isn’t a bi-metal, but the original replays from 2010 had encased rings.

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#### Post date: [March 25, 2016, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bimetal-with-weight-ring-encased-inside-the-yoyo/79815/8 "2016-03-25T19:21:24Z")

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> [@wishiwasayoyoexpert](#):
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> This is the only one I know of.

thats a pressed fit…

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#### Post date: [March 25, 2016, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bimetal-with-weight-ring-encased-inside-the-yoyo/79815/9 "2016-03-25T19:32:23Z")

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> [@alecto](#):
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> thats a pressed fit…

That’s how they are all made, internal or external.

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#### Post date: [March 26, 2016, 8:58am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bimetal-with-weight-ring-encased-inside-the-yoyo/79815/10 "2016-03-26T08:58:05Z")

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> [@jhb8426](#):
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> That’s how they are all made, internal or external.

Not like the Knight in which the ring is exposed, I meant completely encased without any exposure whatsoever.

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#### Post date: [March 26, 2016, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bimetal-with-weight-ring-encased-inside-the-yoyo/79815/11 "2016-03-26T12:05:34Z")

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> [@The Yo mast3r](#):
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> Not like the Knight in which the ring is exposed, I meant completely encased without any exposure whatsoever.

thats what i was thinking.

and im pretty sure the only way would be with a plastic injection mold

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#### Post date: [March 26, 2016, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bimetal-with-weight-ring-encased-inside-the-yoyo/79815/12 "2016-03-26T12:47:07Z")

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you can also help yourself with thermal expansion.

Steel ring outside, fitted machining, heat it up and fit it.

Steel ring inside, fitted machining, cool ring down and fit it

Steel ring emmbedded, fitted machining, heat alu a little (much more thermal expansion than steel) and heat steel ring until it fits. then let it shrink together.

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#### Post date: [March 26, 2016, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bimetal-with-weight-ring-encased-inside-the-yoyo/79815/13 "2016-03-26T13:35:24Z")

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> [@The Yo mast3r](#):
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> Not like the Knight in which the ring is exposed, I meant completely encased without any exposure whatsoever.

What would be the point of that? You couldn’t see them at all and nobody would see them or think you were cool then.

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#### Post date: [March 26, 2016, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bimetal-with-weight-ring-encased-inside-the-yoyo/79815/14 "2016-03-26T16:23:48Z")

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> [@leop999](#):
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> you can also help yourself with thermal expansion.
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> Steel ring outside, fitted machining, heat it up and fit it.
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> Steel ring inside, fitted machining, cool ring down and fit it
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> Steel ring emmbedded, fitted machining, heat alu a little (much more thermal expansion than steel) and heat steel ring until it fits. then let it shrink together.

that doesnt always create a perfect fit and could be prone to vibe.

trust me i tried something close to this before on a yoyo design.

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#### Post date: [March 26, 2016, 4:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bimetal-with-weight-ring-encased-inside-the-yoyo/79815/15 "2016-03-26T16:32:13Z")

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> [@alecto](#):
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> that doesnt always create a perfect fit and could be prone to vibe.  
> trust me i tried something close to this before on a yoyo design.

So then how do you propose it’s done?

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#### Post date: [March 26, 2016, 4:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bimetal-with-weight-ring-encased-inside-the-yoyo/79815/16 "2016-03-26T16:41:12Z")

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you would have to use a metal or plastic with a lower melting point then the metal being covered and use a mold.

it could be done not impossible but the impracticality of it would make it to expensive to do or might yield varying results.

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#### Post date: [March 26, 2016, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bimetal-with-weight-ring-encased-inside-the-yoyo/79815/17 "2016-03-26T16:46:25Z")

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I was asking about your criticism of leop999’s comments about heating and cooling the materials to attach rings with a press fit. I don’t believe he was referring to embedding them completely. We both assumed the rings would be external, either on the rims, or embedded (knigt) or fit inside the rims.

Looks like there’s a disconnect in the discussion.

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#### Post date: [March 26, 2016, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bimetal-with-weight-ring-encased-inside-the-yoyo/79815/18 "2016-03-26T16:57:11Z")

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> [@jhb8426](#):
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> I was asking about your criticism of leop999’s comments about heating and cooling the materials to attach rings with a press fit. I don’t believe he was referring to embedding them completely. We both assumed the rings would be external, either on the rims, or embedded (knigt) or fit inside the rims.
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> Looks like there’s a disconnect in the discussion.

wouldn’t be the first time.

i see now what was trying to be said… i should probably go back into lurking.

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#### Post date: [March 26, 2016, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bimetal-with-weight-ring-encased-inside-the-yoyo/79815/19 "2016-03-26T17:37:21Z")

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Wasn’t the legacy like that or am I way off?

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#### Post date: [March 26, 2016, 7:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bimetal-with-weight-ring-encased-inside-the-yoyo/79815/20 "2016-03-26T19:39:16Z")

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The Legacy has a metal washer press fit into the shell under the caps. It’s not encased in the plastic.

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