# Big red, an honest review: the good the bad and the ugly **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Reviews\ **Created:** [September 14, 2025, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/big-red-an-honest-review-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/432956 "2025-09-14T18:55:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MoxieOpal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moxieopal/32/691989_2.png) [@MoxieOpal](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MoxieOpal)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/big-red-an-honest-review-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/432956/1 "2025-09-14T18:55:13Z")
I’ve been trying big red and I have some pros and cons Play feel 10/10 Texture 10/10 Whips are clean for 5 minutes so are slacks One issue I have is constantly getting tails and having to adjust string tension every 5-6 minutes the twist method needs some improvement for nylon a lot of unwanted snags for a nylon string Over all a fun string but need some reformulation or a tighter twist method or a core string I like the string don’t hesitate to buy just have some critiques that can be improved on For a small business they’re on the right direction I give them 7/10 Again yo-yo everyone has preferences take what I say with a grain of salt Cloud 9 6/10 (probably just a batch that had a unknown variable when making) Red herring 9/10 Ok this is the second time I’ve ordered from them and I love the string but something needs to be done about tracking and shipping Methods knowing when your package to arrive is like a guessing game especially when you pay money for the string and shipping I love the string until this issue is improved on gonna hold on buying more string ---
**Author:** ![quinton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/quinton/32/376_2.png) [@quinton](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/quinton)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/big-red-an-honest-review-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/432956/2 "2025-09-14T19:10:26Z")
What version string did you get? I got some cloud 9 and sour patch and I don’t know how I feel about it. The cloud 9 is awesome once it’s broken in. Getting the sour candy to hold tension proves tricky for me. ---
**Author:** ![MoxieOpal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moxieopal/32/691989_2.png) [@MoxieOpal](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MoxieOpal)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/big-red-an-honest-review-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/432956/3 "2025-09-14T19:11:31Z")
Cloud 9 in extra thicc again I use snow tires so there’s a broader surface area ---
**Author:** ![MoxieOpal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moxieopal/32/691989_2.png) [@MoxieOpal](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MoxieOpal)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/big-red-an-honest-review-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/432956/4 "2025-09-14T19:12:32Z")
Also I don’t think cloud 9 in that size is good for the manatee ---
**Author:** ![MoxieOpal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moxieopal/32/691989_2.png) [@MoxieOpal](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MoxieOpal)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/big-red-an-honest-review-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/432956/5 "2025-09-14T19:18:15Z")
I have or broken in piece I see what your mean It seem some fibers need to break before it’s playable ---
**Author:** ![MoxieOpal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moxieopal/32/691989_2.png) [@MoxieOpal](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MoxieOpal)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/big-red-an-honest-review-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/432956/6 "2025-09-14T19:20:08Z")
I genuinely never knew what the term broken in meant ---
**Author:** ![Hunger4ungeR](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hunger4unger/32/305581_2.png) [@Hunger4ungeR](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Hunger4ungeR)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/big-red-an-honest-review-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/432956/7 "2025-09-14T19:23:50Z")
I will say tension is THE hardest part of string making. Ive gotten my own blends to be soft, super whippy, and hold slacks well but getting it to also fight tension has been an ongoing battle. Especially when youre doing it by hand. I dont know how zipline makes their string but its so consistent that I think they have to have machines involved ---
**Author:** ![MoxieOpal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moxieopal/32/691989_2.png) [@MoxieOpal](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MoxieOpal)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/big-red-an-honest-review-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/432956/8 "2025-09-14T19:24:32Z")
They add a core thread that one single strin no wrapong back and forth ---
**Author:** ![Hunger4ungeR](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hunger4unger/32/305581_2.png) [@Hunger4ungeR](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Hunger4ungeR)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 7:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/big-red-an-honest-review-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/432956/9 "2025-09-14T19:26:01Z")
Like they tie a single thread off on both ends? I have never thought about that :thinking: ---
**Author:** ![MoxieOpal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moxieopal/32/691989_2.png) [@MoxieOpal](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MoxieOpal)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/big-red-an-honest-review-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/432956/10 "2025-09-14T19:27:19Z")
I sometimes notice it when my string breaks yo see the inner workings ---
**Author:** ![Hunger4ungeR](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hunger4unger/32/305581_2.png) [@Hunger4ungeR](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Hunger4ungeR)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/big-red-an-honest-review-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/432956/11 "2025-09-14T19:28:27Z")
Regardless Im still almost certain there’s a machine involved. There’s far too many variables and their string is outrageously consistent. Something that helps determine the pull force while they reduce or something. I can make 10 string all the same colors, thread count, and reduced to the same point and all will play _slightly_ differently. And I’vemade thousands of string at this point.. 😅 ---
**Author:** ![MoxieOpal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moxieopal/32/691989_2.png) [@MoxieOpal](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MoxieOpal)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/big-red-an-honest-review-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/432956/12 "2025-09-14T19:28:57Z")
That’s what I’m thinking maybe i just got an off batch of cloud 9 ---
**Author:** ![quinton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/quinton/32/376_2.png) [@quinton](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/quinton)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/big-red-an-honest-review-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/432956/13 "2025-09-14T19:29:28Z")
zipline is what I’m mostly comparing to. That and Monkey Vines. Zipline feels like it locks in compared to Big Red. ---
**Author:** ![Hunger4ungeR](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hunger4unger/32/305581_2.png) [@Hunger4ungeR](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Hunger4ungeR)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/big-red-an-honest-review-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/432956/14 "2025-09-14T19:30:19Z")
Definitely possible. Ive debated buying a pressure guage for my own string. That way I can at least try and get the end point to be consistent. Ive been doing string for a while now and have to give zipline props. They have that ■■■■ dialed in 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![MoxieOpal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moxieopal/32/691989_2.png) [@MoxieOpal](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MoxieOpal)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/big-red-an-honest-review-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/432956/15 "2025-09-14T19:30:55Z")
Again I have no grudges or beef with big red ---
**Author:** ![Hunger4ungeR](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hunger4unger/32/305581_2.png) [@Hunger4ungeR](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Hunger4ungeR)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/big-red-an-honest-review-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/432956/16 "2025-09-14T19:31:28Z")
I compare my own to zipline as well. They are the gold standard imo. Executive is probably the best string I’ve ever played. ---
**Author:** ![Splizacular](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/splizacular/32/640487_2.png) [@Splizacular](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Splizacular)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/big-red-an-honest-review-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/432956/17 "2025-09-14T19:31:51Z")
> [@MoxieOpal](#): > > I genuinely never knew what the term broken in meant it doesn’t mean breaking threads if that’s what you’re suggesting > [@Hunger4ungeR](#): > > Regardless Im still almost certain there’s a machine involved ziplines are handmade ---
**Author:** ![Hunger4ungeR](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hunger4unger/32/305581_2.png) [@Hunger4ungeR](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Hunger4ungeR)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/big-red-an-honest-review-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/432956/18 "2025-09-14T19:31:53Z")
Oh no i didn’t think so! Was just chiming in as someone who also makes string 😅 its really tough lol ---
**Author:** ![MoxieOpal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moxieopal/32/691989_2.png) [@MoxieOpal](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MoxieOpal)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/big-red-an-honest-review-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/432956/19 "2025-09-14T19:31:59Z")
They’re just starting too so I understand what’s going on with them ---
**Author:** ![MoxieOpal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moxieopal/32/691989_2.png) [@MoxieOpal](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MoxieOpal)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/big-red-an-honest-review-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/432956/20 "2025-09-14T19:33:19Z")
My cloud nine that’s broken in has some snapped fibers and it plays better idk i think it includes micro snaps [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/big-red-an-honest-review-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/432956.md?page=2)