# Bi-metal **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [August 24, 2011, 3:41am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bi-metal/29320 "2011-08-24T03:41:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![yoyogirl16](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/bbe5ce/32.png) [@yoyogirl16](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyogirl16)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 3:41am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bi-metal/29320/1 "2011-08-24T03:41:52Z")
So I looking for my second yoyo. Right now i am using a yyf one. I am getting into the advanced tricks and can bind. i am wondering what is the best bi-metal yoyo. Thank you ---
**Author:** ![buddhakeith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/67e7ee/32.png) [@buddhakeith](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/buddhakeith)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 4:38am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bi-metal/29320/2 "2011-08-24T04:38:04Z")
In my opinion, the yyj new breed by a longshot ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 5:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bi-metal/29320/3 "2011-08-24T05:01:36Z")
I have a YYJ Dark Magic II. I’m rather partial to it, it’s currently my favorite. Also, considering this was my upgrade from a Duncan Reflex… there’s no comparison.(as in comparing the Reflex to the DMII) However, don’t limit yourself to just bi-metals. There also metals you can consider, as well as full plastics that perform really good as well. Right now, set a budget, see what you can afford. Also, factor in shipping and strings into that budget as well. You’ll find there’s a lot out there to choose from. Also, keep in mind that everything is opinion. What works for many may not be what is ideal for you. That’s just a reality about yoyos. Have fun! ---
**Author:** ![dynikus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dynikus/32/812_2.png) [@dynikus](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/dynikus)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 5:08am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bi-metal/29320/4 "2011-08-24T05:08:47Z")
best bimetal I’d say is a phenomism. but it’s also like 70 bucks… I’d go with a raptor if I were you. same price as a bimetal, but plays like a $100 metal. Or, check the b/s/t. I recently got a xyo xcalibur ($90 metal) for 20 bucks shipped. and it was practically mint 😃 A couple great bimetals though: DM (1 and 2) Phenomizm Destiny Cerberus Not really sure how good it is as I’ve never used one, but the fever. And something I personally wasn’t a fan of, but others have loved, a hitman pro. ---
**Author:** ![skeletonboy333](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b2d939/32.png) [@skeletonboy333](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/skeletonboy333)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bi-metal/29320/5 "2011-08-24T14:38:00Z")
Yes, don’t limit yourself to bi-metals. But it is a bit more durable. You’ll ding the ring, not the direct “ouch” damage. Bi-metals have momentum, metals tend to be a tad for stable. Either way it’s fine, but metal would be worth it. A Raptor, cheaper than most bi-metals, plays like a pro. It’s extremely smooth on the string, glides perfect, has very little vibe, comes with 2 removable caps for different weight, play, 2 extra sets of response pads (Silicone SG), has a cool laser engraving on each side, does everything with ease, stable, and it just…it…BAM ---
**Author:** ![nobody](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nobody/32/845_2.png) [@nobody](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nobody)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bi-metal/29320/6 "2011-08-24T16:19:14Z")
Protostar. 34 dollar price point but plays like it has an 100 dollar pricepoint ---
**Author:** ![FiveIronBrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/fiveironbrian/32/451_2.png) [@FiveIronBrian](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/FiveIronBrian)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bi-metal/29320/7 "2011-08-24T16:40:35Z")
The one bi-metal I wish I had is the SR-71. Full-sized, comfortable shape (rim edges are slightly rounded), nice distribution of weight for a lot of stability and some agility, very smooth. Best all-around yo-yo I’ve played with (Dark Magic II comes in second). Take a look. ---
**Author:** ![brandoide1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/brandoide1/32/662_2.png) [@brandoide1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/brandoide1)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bi-metal/29320/8 "2011-08-24T16:51:47Z")
Dark Magic (version II)- I really like the shape/feel of it. Great spin times, very stable. It is my personal favorite. NEW BREED- I love this one. The weight on it, I feel is PERFECT. Atmosphere- Impressive spin times PHENOMizm- FAST! SFX- SMOOV! Hitman PRO- Well rounded, comfortable feel. … Those are my favorites (in order). ---
**Author:** ![yoyogirl16](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/bbe5ce/32.png) [@yoyogirl16](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyogirl16)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bi-metal/29320/9 "2011-08-24T17:10:58Z")
I was thinking about going with a bi-metal and then upgrading to a nice full metal eventually since i have a $50 budget. I don’t need to worry about getting strings and stuff though cause i already got them. If i was to get a cheap full metal i was looking at the dv888 and the shinwoo 5. ---
**Author:** ![dynikus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dynikus/32/812_2.png) [@dynikus](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/dynikus)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 11:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bi-metal/29320/10 "2011-08-24T23:01:54Z")
what are some of your preferences? oversized or undersized? grindable? floaty, fast, heavy on the string? ---
**Author:** ![yoyogirl16](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/bbe5ce/32.png) [@yoyogirl16](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyogirl16)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bi-metal/29320/11 "2011-08-26T12:34:39Z")
I don’t have any preferences yet as this will be my second yoyo only. The only thing that i know i want is an unresponsive yoyo. ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 3:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bi-metal/29320/12 "2011-08-26T15:30:56Z")
If all you want is an unresponsive yoyo, you can take out the slimmer responsive bearing and put in the non-responsive bearing. You did order your ONE in the packaging that includes the second bearing, right? Or did you order the one with the DVD? If you need to buy a bearing, there’s plenty available. I like the Terrapin X bearings, and the flat Chrome X bearing I think cost me $7.50 and it’s a great bearing. Or you can go with a WHIP and end up with a second yoyo for only a little bit more. The only negative part with your quest for something new is that there’s a lot of good stuff to sort through and that won’t make your decision making any easier. Do you have some sort of budget in mind? ---
**Author:** ![nobody](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nobody/32/845_2.png) [@nobody](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nobody)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bi-metal/29320/13 "2011-08-26T20:34:50Z")
I just traded my popstar for a revolution, it is so smooth. I would reccomend it 100%. I would look into it getting if I was you. ---
**Author:** ![dynikus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dynikus/32/812_2.png) [@dynikus](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/dynikus)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 10:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bi-metal/29320/14 "2011-08-26T22:57:27Z")
I would definitely go for a raptor or a dv888. They’re about the same price as a bimetal, but play like metals. Or I’d highly recommend looking at the b/s/t. you can get amazing deals there. (888 for $36, lunatic for $35, xcalibur for $20… just to name a few great deals I’ve personally gotten) ---
**Author:** ![buddhakeith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/67e7ee/32.png) [@buddhakeith](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/buddhakeith)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 1:39am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bi-metal/29320/15 "2011-08-27T01:39:43Z")
> [@dynikus](#): > > I would definitely go for a raptor or a dv888. > They’re about the same price as a bimetal, but play like metals. i just find this amusing, because they are both fully metal, so I should hope they play like metals. ---
**Author:** ![skeletonboy333](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b2d939/32.png) [@skeletonboy333](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/skeletonboy333)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 2:21am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bi-metal/29320/16 "2011-08-27T02:21:16Z")
> [@buddhakeith](#): > > > [@dynikus](#): > > > > I would definitely go for a raptor or a dv888. > > They’re about the same price as a bimetal, but play like metals. > > i just find this amusing, because they are both fully metal, so I should hope they play like metals. To be honest, they don’t play like metal. They ARE the king of metals. :wink: ---
**Author:** ![dynikus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dynikus/32/812_2.png) [@dynikus](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/dynikus)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 3:42am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bi-metal/29320/17 "2011-08-27T03:42:19Z")
> [@buddhakeith](#): > > > [@dynikus](#): > > > > I would definitely go for a raptor or a dv888. > > They’re about the same price as a bimetal, but play like metals. > > i just find this amusing, because they are both fully metal, so I should hope they play like metals. lol you know what I meant. ---
**Author:** ![N8dogg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@N8dogg](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/N8dogg)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 3:54am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bi-metal/29320/18 "2011-08-27T03:54:28Z")
Since people are talking about the YYJ bi-metals already, out of Dark Magic 2, Phenomizm, and New Breed my Phenomizm crushes. So smooth and playable. So fast and just makes you feel like a king. Amazing. That being said, it is a tad more pricey and you won’t really be missing out on anything if you go for a cheaper bi-metal. I personally love the Dark Magic 2 a lot more than the New Breed in terms of bi-metals around the $40 price point. I find the DM2 is smoother, faster, just “works” better if that makes sense. For your second yoyo, if you’re really looking for an unresponsive upgrade from the One that is a bi-metal I fully vote for Dark Magic 2. You can’t go wrong with that yoyo. I prefer it over Northstar/Protostar. But it’s all preference…