# Best performing monometal? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [January 6, 2019, 12:39am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/best-performing-monometal/297058 "2019-01-06T00:39:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![G2\_Jake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/g2_jake/32/446_2.png) [@G2\_Jake](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/G2_Jake)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/best-performing-monometal/297058/105 "2019-01-09T13:28:44Z")
Isn’t the best one always the next one you want to buy? ---
**Author:** ![eternalmetal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/eternalmetal/32/44877_2.png) [@eternalmetal](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/eternalmetal)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/best-performing-monometal/297058/106 "2019-01-09T14:41:41Z")
> [@NeoHamster](#): > > It is not, it is as premium as Coldfire or Kenshin. What makes it cheaper is not the quality, is: 1- The material, 6061 vs 7068, 2- I made a big run to get discount. 3- I cut the profit as an investment to let people try a Sengoku for cheap price. Other than that, design, quality control, anodizing, bearings, pads, packing, etc, is identical to any other Sengoku monometal. Maybe ill consider getting one then. I was just put off by the advertising tbh. I mean, all the other yoyos are named after big named generals and demons, and this one is just a foot soldier (dime a dozen so to speak). The advertising also implies that this isnt a premium offering, but simply just an introduction to your company (which maybe it is to an extent if your flagships are hi-end bimetals). Stupid assumption I know, but when there are so many options out there and little consensus, details like that kind of push the final decision. ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/best-performing-monometal/297058/107 "2019-01-09T21:36:43Z")
Ah the “moneymoon”… the thing you just _bought_ is always the favorite :wink: ---
**Author:** ![ThrowTrue](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/throwtrue/32/44663_2.png) [@ThrowTrue](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ThrowTrue)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2019, 4:10am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/best-performing-monometal/297058/108 "2019-01-14T04:10:47Z")
For spin time? What type of duration are you pulling now? ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2019, 5:09am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/best-performing-monometal/297058/109 "2019-01-14T05:09:26Z")
Well, to give two comparative examples, the max spin time I got from: - One Drop VTWO: 11 min 10 sec - SF Cadence: 4 min 2 sec These were from moderately strong breakaway throws. If there are monometals out there that will give me spin times longer than a VTWO with the same throw I gave in these tests, I’d very much like to try them. ---
**Author:** ![TheThrowingGnome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/thethrowinggnome/32/14231_2.png) [@TheThrowingGnome](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheThrowingGnome)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2019, 5:11am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/best-performing-monometal/297058/110 "2019-01-14T05:11:52Z")
11 min.! Incredible. Truly miraculous if it still had the flat bearing. ---
**Author:** ![threebearrries](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/threebearrries/32/42073_2.png) [@threebearrries](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/threebearrries)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2019, 5:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/best-performing-monometal/297058/111 "2019-01-14T05:35:17Z")
Was the same bearing used for both throws? If not, the results are somewhat less impressive. ---
**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2019, 6:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/best-performing-monometal/297058/112 "2019-01-14T06:01:00Z")
Get yourself a Sengoku Masamaxx :joy: Better yet, a C3 BTH! ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2019, 6:11am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/best-performing-monometal/297058/113 "2019-01-14T06:11:26Z")
Yes, I have the same type of bearing in both (a Boss Rage). ---
**Author:** ![threebearrries](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/threebearrries/32/42073_2.png) [@threebearrries](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/threebearrries)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2019, 6:16am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/best-performing-monometal/297058/114 "2019-01-14T06:16:33Z")
Yay for science! ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2019, 6:39am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/best-performing-monometal/297058/115 "2019-01-14T06:39:13Z")
> [@zslane](#): > > - One Drop VTWO: 11 min 10 sec > - SF Cadence: 4 min 2 sec Wow that’s an interesting result! And with the same bearing in both :+1: You should try a bimetal, I expect that’d do even better than the VTWO. ---
**Author:** ![ThrowTrue](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/throwtrue/32/44663_2.png) [@ThrowTrue](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ThrowTrue)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2019, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/best-performing-monometal/297058/116 "2019-01-14T17:26:04Z")
And what is your longest spinning throw and what duration do you get off of it? ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2019, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/best-performing-monometal/297058/117 "2019-01-14T18:16:57Z")
I don’t really know. I haven’t summoned the motivation to time all of my yoyos. ---
**Author:** ![TheThrowingGnome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/thethrowinggnome/32/14231_2.png) [@TheThrowingGnome](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheThrowingGnome)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2019, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/best-performing-monometal/297058/118 "2019-01-14T19:23:48Z")
What about testing just by allowing YoYo to fall/roll down the string to eliminate the variable of “strength of throw”? ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2019, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/best-performing-monometal/297058/119 "2019-01-14T19:28:20Z")
Maybe someone with a much more comprehensive collection than mine would like to do this _for science_! (Sounds like a job for @codinghorror, actually.) ---
**Author:** ![sfyoyos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sfyoyos/32/20072_2.png) [@sfyoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sfyoyos)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2019, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/best-performing-monometal/297058/120 "2019-01-14T19:49:55Z")
In regards to the wording of the original question, the “best performing competition-oriented monometal” is going to vary pretty heavily based on your competition trickset imo. Spintime often doesn’t directly equate to trick or combo success rate… something like width CAN with bigger tricks but not everyone does those and increasing width past a certain point makes the concession that it will lower spin time. You’d really want to make the choice for what’s ideal based on your own style. There is no yoyo that will result in the highest trick success rate for each individual. The choice to compete with a yoyo should be based on the success rate of _your_ combos. I think this makes finding a similar playing reviewer prior to buying important. For my own playstyle, something like the Cadence or Ko’Edge isn’t the most optimal yoyo because I really don’t need width at all. The Valor or Sleipnir would be my vote for best performing monometal. ---
**Author:** ![Drakkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/drakkar/32/230080_2.png) [@Drakkar](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Drakkar)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2019, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/best-performing-monometal/297058/121 "2019-01-14T19:51:56Z")
> [@zslane](#): > > I don’t really know. I haven’t summoned the motivation to time all of my yoyos. Hmm, I might try it if I have some time during the weekend. I have quite a few yo-yos in my collection but not that many monometals (excluding titaniums, I have a bunch of those). If enough people are interested, I can do bimetals, monometals, and titaniums. I can also try different types of bearings. Let me know. I expect the results to be pretty accurate, but to be honest, I’ve never gotten crazy spin times like @zslane in the past. The yo-yos eventually tend to tilt inward when I throw them, no matter how straight the throw, and I have to correct it, which creates unnecessary friction and kills the spin faster. ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2019, 7:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/best-performing-monometal/297058/122 "2019-01-14T19:58:50Z")
It bears mentioning that my “method” may not be considered the standard or normal way of measuring max spin time. I stopped the timer only when the yoyo stopped spinning entirely and came to a complete stop. I did not stop the timer when the yoyo merely slowed down to a point of “uselessness”. ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2019, 8:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/best-performing-monometal/297058/123 "2019-01-14T20:30:18Z")
Sorry, I totally missed your reply. I don’t have a video showing this combo chain, but it is (now) the following: - Breakaway throw into The Matrix (1 iteration) to → - Brother mount to → - Trapeze mount to → - Smiley Flow Routine\* (1 iteration) to → - Rewind… - …unwound into underside mount for backspin bind \* There is a tut video by Chad demonstrating/teaching his Flow Routine. Back when I originally mentioned this combo chain (two weekends ago), it didn’t end with a Rewind but with a forward flip into a Double or Nothing, popped out to a Trapeze mount and then into the underside mount for the backspin bind. But I’ve since learned (though not perfected) Rewind, and I’ve been working to incorporate it into the combo chain and still pull it off with a monometal. ---
**Author:** ![yoyodoc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyodoc/32/48820_2.png) [@yoyodoc](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyodoc)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2019, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/best-performing-monometal/297058/124 "2019-01-14T20:56:52Z")
> [@zslane](#): > > Yes, I have the same type of bearing in both (a Boss Rage Not the same type. The same bearing. [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/best-performing-monometal/297058.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/best-performing-monometal/297058.md?page=7)