# Best mono metal competition yoyo?
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/best-mono-metal-competition-yoyo/84076
**Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation
**Created:** [May 24, 2017, 2:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/best-mono-metal-competition-yoyo/84076 "2017-05-24T14:13:54Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Eastfield](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Eastfield)
#### Post date: [May 24, 2017, 2:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/best-mono-metal-competition-yoyo/84076/1 "2017-05-24T14:13:54Z")
Not taking titanium yoyos into consideration.
(And yes, i’m asking for your subjective preferences. Please no “there is no best yoyo”-speech :))
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### Author:  [@GrindDude](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GrindDude)
#### Post date: [May 24, 2017, 2:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/best-mono-metal-competition-yoyo/84076/2 "2017-05-24T14:15:57Z")
Kuntosh 5000qv
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### Author:  [@Toby2345](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Toby2345)
#### Post date: [May 24, 2017, 4:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/best-mono-metal-competition-yoyo/84076/3 "2017-05-24T16:09:13Z")
> [@GrindDude](#):
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> Kuntosh 5000qv
How is it for off axis style of play?
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### Author:  [@Toby2345](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Toby2345)
#### Post date: [May 24, 2017, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/best-mono-metal-competition-yoyo/84076/4 "2017-05-24T16:10:31Z")
How is the kaiser?
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### Author:  [@Dturtle](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Dturtle)
#### Post date: [May 24, 2017, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/best-mono-metal-competition-yoyo/84076/5 "2017-05-24T17:07:32Z")
Horizon 😤
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### Author:  [@Toby2345](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Toby2345)
#### Post date: [May 24, 2017, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/best-mono-metal-competition-yoyo/84076/6 "2017-05-24T17:37:00Z")
> [@Dturtle](#):
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> Horizon 😤
Why that emoji?
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### Author:  [@Eastfield](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Eastfield)
#### Post date: [May 24, 2017, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/best-mono-metal-competition-yoyo/84076/7 "2017-05-24T17:41:57Z")
> [@Dturtle](#):
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> Horizon 😤
But for real…?
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### Author:  [@Cannon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Cannon)
#### Post date: [May 24, 2017, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/best-mono-metal-competition-yoyo/84076/8 "2017-05-24T18:36:05Z")
Oh gosh, here comes the shutter vs horizon arguments! Take cover! 😜
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### Author:  [@Eastfield](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Eastfield)
#### Post date: [May 24, 2017, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/best-mono-metal-competition-yoyo/84076/9 "2017-05-24T18:37:54Z")
> [@Cannon](#):
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> Oh gosh, here comes the shutter vs horizon arguments! Take cover! 😜
I seriously can’t believe anyone would consider either of these the best mono metal yoyo out there today.
I mean, they’re both very good yoyos, especially for the price, but not that awsome really.
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### Author:  [@YoYoExpertGarrett](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYoExpertGarrett)
#### Post date: [May 24, 2017, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/best-mono-metal-competition-yoyo/84076/10 "2017-05-24T18:54:51Z")
> [@Eastfield](#):
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> (And yes, i’m asking for your subjective preferences. Please no “there is no best yoyo”-speech :))
> [@Eastfield](#):
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> I seriously can’t believe anyone would consider either of these the best mono metal yoyo out there today.
> I mean, they’re both very good yoyos, especially for the price, but not that awsome really.
You asked…
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### Author:  [@Dturtle](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Dturtle)
#### Post date: [May 24, 2017, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/best-mono-metal-competition-yoyo/84076/11 "2017-05-24T19:04:37Z")
> [@Eastfield](#):
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> But for real…?
Yeah the horizon is siq :fire:
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### Author:  [@Cannon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Cannon)
#### Post date: [May 24, 2017, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/best-mono-metal-competition-yoyo/84076/12 "2017-05-24T19:10:55Z")
The Horizon has most criteria people look for in a competition yoyo: light weight, plays fast, good at horizontal tricks, lots of rim weight. It’s also cheap enough to have multiple for on stage.
I’ve heard lots of good about the kenshin as well.
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### Author:  [@Eastfield](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Eastfield)
#### Post date: [May 24, 2017, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/best-mono-metal-competition-yoyo/84076/13 "2017-05-24T19:14:22Z")
> [@Dturtle](#):
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> Yeah the horizon is siq :fire:
As i said, it’s a good yoyo, but if you’ve ever played something like a Sleipnir (or anything else from YYR), Turning Point or a high end OD you’ll probably realise that the Horizon isn’t the top of the world.
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### Author:  [@Cannon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Cannon)
#### Post date: [May 24, 2017, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/best-mono-metal-competition-yoyo/84076/14 "2017-05-24T19:22:38Z")
> [@Eastfield](#):
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> As i said, it’s a good yoyo, but if you’ve ever played something like a Sleipnir (or anything else from YYR), Turning Point or a high end OD you’ll probably realise that the Horizon isn’t the top of the world.
This is going to sound really pathetic, but I was going to say sleipnir but I had no idea how to spell it so I just skipped out on it. :joy:
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### Author:  [@darkmagicII](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/darkmagicII)
#### Post date: [May 24, 2017, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/best-mono-metal-competition-yoyo/84076/15 "2017-05-24T21:03:39Z")
On a budget? Just go with the shutter. No budget? Try to find a Chief or a Scout.
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### Author:  [@GrindDude](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GrindDude)
#### Post date: [May 24, 2017, 10:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/best-mono-metal-competition-yoyo/84076/16 "2017-05-24T22:13:23Z")
> [@Toby2345](#):
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> How is it for off axis style of play?
It works pretty good. It doesn’t have a step but the string doesn’t touch the side much. I like it.
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### Author:  [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)
#### Post date: [May 24, 2017, 11:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/best-mono-metal-competition-yoyo/84076/17 "2017-05-24T23:41:12Z")
> [@Eastfield](#):
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> As i said, it’s a good yoyo, but if you’ve ever played something like a Sleipnir (or anything else from YYR), Turning Point or a high end OD you’ll probably realise that the Horizon isn’t the top of the world.
Agreed.
I’m going to put my vote in for the Sengoku Forge. I actually prefer it over the Sleipnir and Kenshin, which seem to be some of the ones that are getting the most attention for “best monometal”
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### Author:  [@Caden3211](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Caden3211)
#### Post date: [May 25, 2017, 1:20am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/best-mono-metal-competition-yoyo/84076/18 "2017-05-25T01:20:51Z")
IMO the accelerator is the best i have two:joy::+1:
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### Author:  [@KiLbUcK](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/KiLbUcK)
#### Post date: [May 25, 2017, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/best-mono-metal-competition-yoyo/84076/19 "2017-05-25T17:29:19Z")
> [@andy569](#):
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> Agreed.
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> I’m going to put my vote in for the Sengoku Forge. I actually prefer it over the Sleipnir and Kenshin, which seem to be some of the ones that are getting the most attention for “best monometal”
I’m with you brother…I feel the Forge is without a doubt - the best mono metal design to date. It’s a shame there weren’t more of them made.
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### Author:  [@Eastfield](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Eastfield)
#### Post date: [May 25, 2017, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/best-mono-metal-competition-yoyo/84076/20 "2017-05-25T18:05:47Z")
I should probably add - i’m looking for something that’s readily available 🙂
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