# beginner yoyo **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [July 9, 2015, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/beginner-yoyo/75699 "2015-07-09T17:05:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Sully](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/48db29/32.png) [@Sully](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Sully)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2015, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/beginner-yoyo/75699/1 "2015-07-09T17:05:18Z")
okay so currently i only have a duncan butterfly but i want a yoyo that i can actually do stuff with other than trapeze. Im looking for a yoyo that can be responsive and be able to change to unresponsive when I’m ready. currently i have been looking at the yyj classic, dv888, and velocity. I want to stay around that price range if you have any other suggestions. Also i want to get a looping yoyo to experiment with, so what would be a good looping yoyo (under $20) that would be best to learn with? ---
**Author:** ![mysteriousyoyoer\_par](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f4b2a3/32.png) [@mysteriousyoyoer\_par](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mysteriousyoyoer_par)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2015, 6:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/beginner-yoyo/75699/2 "2015-07-09T18:24:26Z")
Yoyofactory loop 808 or yoyojam unleashed for looping. And yoyo jam classic or yoyofactory replay pro for 1 a. But you’ll have to get a size bearing to play unresponsive with classic but with replay you can play unresponsive stock. ---
**Author:** ![sparhawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@sparhawk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sparhawk)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2015, 3:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/beginner-yoyo/75699/3 "2015-07-10T03:02:30Z")
DV888 is outdated and velocity has too much centerweight. Loop 360 and classic should do you well.