# Beginner unresponsive metal

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**Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\
**Created:** [November 18, 2015, 3:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/beginner-unresponsive-metal/77991 "2015-11-18T15:15:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![BovineAssassin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/53a042/32.png) [@BovineAssassin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/BovineAssassin)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2015, 3:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/beginner-unresponsive-metal/77991/1 "2015-11-18T15:15:19Z")

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my friend wants a good budget beginner unresponsive for 40 bucks or under he doesn’t really have a play style yet but i’d say he would want a fairly fast one

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**Author:** ![Cannon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/919ad9/32.png) [@Cannon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Cannon)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2015, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/beginner-unresponsive-metal/77991/2 "2015-11-20T12:34:54Z")

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Generally good yoyos in the price range would be a kilter 2, orbis, or quash (all of which are by yoyo officer).

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**Author:** ![BovineAssassin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/53a042/32.png) [@BovineAssassin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/BovineAssassin)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2015, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/beginner-unresponsive-metal/77991/3 "2015-11-20T16:11:56Z")

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> [@Cannon](#):
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> Generally good yoyos in the price range would be a kilter 2, orbis, or quash (all of which are by yoyo officer).

yea I just sold one of mine i had like 20 orbises or howerver you pronounce the plural of orbis

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**Author:** ![Insiiight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/insiiight/32/44522_2.png) [@Insiiight](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Insiiight)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2015, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/beginner-unresponsive-metal/77991/4 "2015-11-20T18:47:16Z")

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> [@Cannon](#):
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> Generally good yoyos in the price range would be a kilter 2, orbis, or quash (all of which are by yoyo officer).

I agree that YYO throws would be a great choice for a beginner metal. There is also the Duncan echo 2 and Duncan torque might be good choices as well

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**Author:** ![Revolution626](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Revolution626](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Revolution626)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2015, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/beginner-unresponsive-metal/77991/5 "2015-11-20T19:24:53Z")

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Kilter 2 is amazing. Though, if he is truly just starting, the Replay Pro is dam good. I like it even more than the Kilter, but if he must have Metal, than its gotta be the kilter 2. If he wants more Organic, I like the Yomega Maverick, so, keep that in mind too