# Beginner... help please **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [January 4, 2021, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/beginner-help-please/332016 "2021-01-04T19:01:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Adam91081](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/fbc32d/32.png) [@Adam91081](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Adam91081)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/beginner-help-please/332016/1 "2021-01-04T19:01:48Z")
Hi all, new to the yo yo and the forum, hello all! Can anyone give me some guidance… regarding that throw where you just Chuck it out forwards in front of you, belly height, and it then returns… mine seems to have a mind of its own as to when it decides to return to my hand or whether it just stays out in front of me doing that spinny thing, before falling down and not having enough spin to do anything else. What am I doing wrong? Thanks in advance ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/beginner-help-please/332016/2 "2021-01-04T19:11:54Z")
I believe what you’re referring to is called Forward Pass. Two things to note: 1. The faster the yoyo is spinning, the more likely it is to return back to you with speed and authority. The way to get it to spin faster is to throw it out with more force. 2. Make sure you tug back on it with good, but not excessive, force _just before_ it reaches full extension in front of you. ---
**Author:** ![LinksLegionaire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/linkslegionaire/32/886_2.png) [@LinksLegionaire](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LinksLegionaire)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/beginner-help-please/332016/3 "2021-01-04T19:28:48Z")
Perhaps our very own Andre could be of some assistance [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/d/0/7/d07f9a52652cad1f26fa34d71948aeb15f9fc2fc.jpeg "Learn the "Forward Pass" Yoyo trick - YoYoExpert Tutorials") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WimtoHCosE) ---
**Author:** ![Adam91081](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/fbc32d/32.png) [@Adam91081](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Adam91081)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/beginner-help-please/332016/4 "2021-01-04T19:36:30Z")
Wow, thanks for the speedy reply… that’s where i have problems… if I tug it back and then try to do that thing where you let it go slightly behind your hand on the return and fling it back out again, it doesn’t work, the tug seems to just seem to cause the yo yo to have no momentum, enough for me to loop it back out again. Apologies for the terrible descriptions, haha! ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/beginner-help-please/332016/5 "2021-01-04T19:37:20Z")
At what point in your throwing arm’s motion are you releasing the yoyo? You may be releasing it too early or too late. Also, what yoyo are you using? ---
**Author:** ![Adam91081](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/fbc32d/32.png) [@Adam91081](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Adam91081)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/beginner-help-please/332016/6 "2021-01-04T19:45:37Z")
I’m using a magic yo-yo v3 - it looks great but not the best for a beginner, Christmas present form the wife, can hurt when you get things wrong, haha. I think the problem is that I’m not flipping my hand when the yo yo reaches its maximum length. ---
**Author:** ![ChrisFrancz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/chrisfrancz/32/48992_2.png) [@ChrisFrancz](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ChrisFrancz)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/beginner-help-please/332016/7 "2021-01-04T20:10:54Z")
Is this what you are talking about? [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/2/9/c/29c45241eee706a5f715e261e14c68c59fca2d62.jpeg "How To Be A Yo-Yo Ninja: 2A Looping Tricks Pt 1") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNaSIue2StU) It sounds like you are talking about looping maybe? Even forward pass can be a HUGE thing to learn. Just don’t blame your yoyo. V3 is a great yoyo. I have one. There’s alot to learn with a trick that appears very simple. Practice getting really good sleepers and tug returns as they will give you a good foundation. Forward Pass took me over a week to learn on my Duncan Butterfly! ---
**Author:** ![Adam91081](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/fbc32d/32.png) [@Adam91081](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Adam91081)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/beginner-help-please/332016/8 "2021-01-04T20:43:41Z")
Thanks for the inspiration! I’m getting there, been on it for a week, can do quite a few tricks, great yo-yo, just a bit heavy compared to the cheaply plastic ones ---
**Author:** ![ChrisFrancz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/chrisfrancz/32/48992_2.png) [@ChrisFrancz](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ChrisFrancz)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/beginner-help-please/332016/9 "2021-01-04T20:57:34Z")
I put a wider bearing in my V3 and play it unresponsive. Please let us know about your progress or hit us up with questions. We’re all Learners here! V3 may be difficult for looping because of the wider shape. Possible to loop with it but it’s not really the best shape for looping. ---
**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 1:25am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/beginner-help-please/332016/10 "2021-01-05T01:25:56Z")
> [@Adam91081](#): > > I’m using a magic yo-yo v3 > [@ChrisFrancz](#): > > It sounds like you are talking about looping maybe? The magic yo-yo v3 is a butterfly shape and they generally do not lend themselves to looping. You need more of an imperial shape for loops. Yes, they can be looped but not well.