# Beginner 4A in 2020? **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [October 15, 2020, 1:25am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/beginner-4a-in-2020/328431 "2020-10-15T01:25:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![BadWolfeCo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/badwolfeco/32/99733_2.png) [@BadWolfeCo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/BadWolfeCo)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 1:25am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/beginner-4a-in-2020/328431/1 "2020-10-15T01:25:00Z")
So, I used the forum search tool and only found articles from 5+ years ago so I figured I’d ask in case things have changed. What’s a good 4A yoyo for someone just starting out? I’m thinking it needs to be durable because a newbie like me is gonna drop it over and over and over and… And price-wise I’m not looking for the absolute cheapest, just inexpensive with good bang for your buck. Like, what’s the Replay Pro of 4A? The metaphor being that the Replay Pro isn’t the cheapest yoyo ever made, but it’s inexpensive and still very good for the price. ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 1:58am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/beginner-4a-in-2020/328431/2 "2020-10-15T01:58:16Z")
The YYF Flight. ---
**Author:** ![TheThrowingGnome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/thethrowinggnome/32/14231_2.png) [@TheThrowingGnome](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheThrowingGnome)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 1:59am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/beginner-4a-in-2020/328431/3 "2020-10-15T01:59:48Z")
Iyoyo 4a throws are the jam! ---
**Author:** ![yyfben2.deactivated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ccd318/32.png) [@yyfben2.deactivated](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yyfben2.deactivated)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 2:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/beginner-4a-in-2020/328431/4 "2020-10-15T02:05:52Z")
Flight has not been replaced or refreshed because we have not come up with better or has anyone else in the Industry. It’s not indestructible, nothing you drop is, but it is tough and it’s priced to be replaced if you do trash it. A vote for flight! ---
**Author:** ![William4842](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/william4842/32/101481_2.png) [@William4842](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/William4842)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/beginner-4a-in-2020/328431/5 "2020-10-15T12:41:56Z")
I concur with @zslane and @yyfben2.deactivated, the Flight is pretty great for the price and the quality, but I have two other suggestions for you. 1. Duncan Pandamonium- This is my yoyo of choice for 4a. For me, the proportions feel just perfect. When you buy it, it comes with 3 different spacers which are so great for beginners all the way to advanced players. The pads are the super amazing Duncan Red Pads (which are my literal favorite as they last forever). 2. Duncan Hayabusa- Now is this throw the greatest? No, not by a long shot. Is it the widest? No. The reason that it is on my list is that it is portable, stupidly durable, requires almost no maintenance, and is cheap (and I mean ridiculously cheap). This is the cheapest 4a throw on YYE coming in at a price of 10.99. I would highly recommend you try it. ---
**Author:** ![YoyoDrew](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyodrew/32/77934_2.png) [@YoyoDrew](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoyoDrew)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 11:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/beginner-4a-in-2020/328431/6 "2020-10-15T23:11:56Z")
I’ve had 2 flights break on me within a couple weeks of owning them. I didn’t drop them super hard but they broke. It could’ve just been a fluke but I would not buy it. I really like my yyf airwave though it’s really durable ---
**Author:** ![Mystik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mystik/32/83294_2.png) [@Mystik](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mystik)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 11:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/beginner-4a-in-2020/328431/7 "2020-10-15T23:51:03Z")
Im with @YoyoDrew. I 2nd the Airwave. ---
**Author:** ![BadWolfeCo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/badwolfeco/32/99733_2.png) [@BadWolfeCo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/BadWolfeCo)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2020, 1:44am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/beginner-4a-in-2020/328431/8 "2020-10-16T01:44:56Z")
Thanks for all the input, guys! Might go with the Hayabusa just for the price tag, that’s not bad at all. ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2020, 1:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/beginner-4a-in-2020/328431/9 "2020-10-16T01:46:17Z")
Oh man I have a set of 4A yo-yos I forgot to sell, I’d be happy to sell them to you for basically peanuts. PM me! ---
**Author:** ![lumanasty](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/lumanasty/32/80550_2.png) [@lumanasty](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/lumanasty)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2020, 2:47am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/beginner-4a-in-2020/328431/10 "2020-10-16T02:47:42Z")
For what its worth the myy t1 captain is a solid 4a for the money