# Bearing won't go in Cypher **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Mods and Maintenance\ **Created:** [August 11, 2014, 4:45am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bearing-wont-go-in-cypher/68518 "2014-08-11T04:45:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Raigo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/raigo/32/1446_2.png) [@Raigo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Raigo)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2014, 4:45am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bearing-wont-go-in-cypher/68518/1 "2014-08-11T04:45:03Z")
I’m trying to put my crucial bearing in, but the entire thing just wont go in… ITs mostly in, put theres a little gap in between the bearing seat and the bearing which i cant push in all the way ---
**Author:** ![CaliBuddha](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/calibuddha/32/156_2.png) [@CaliBuddha](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/CaliBuddha)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2014, 4:51am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bearing-wont-go-in-cypher/68518/2 "2014-08-11T04:51:46Z")
Put the other half on and screw it together. It will go in. ---
**Author:** ![Raigo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/raigo/32/1446_2.png) [@Raigo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Raigo)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2014, 5:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bearing-wont-go-in-cypher/68518/3 "2014-08-11T05:29:49Z")
> [@CaliBuddha](#): > > Put the other half on and screw it together. It will go in. Lol this worked… Thanks!, Is it supposed to be difficult to twist it together thogh? ---
**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2014, 5:34am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bearing-wont-go-in-cypher/68518/4 "2014-08-11T05:34:53Z")
If you couldn’t get it together by pushing it in, you can expect resistance when screwing it together, too. :wink: That bearing is probably in there pretty tight now. ---
**Author:** ![sparhawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@sparhawk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sparhawk)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2014, 6:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bearing-wont-go-in-cypher/68518/5 "2014-08-11T06:00:18Z")
> [@Raigo](#): > > Lol this worked… > Thanks!, Is it supposed to be difficult to twist it together thogh? It’s the yoyofactory death grip. They make their bearing seats super tight so some people end up having trouble with them from time to time but it helps make them smooth. ---
**Author:** ![Raigo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/raigo/32/1446_2.png) [@Raigo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Raigo)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2014, 6:04am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bearing-wont-go-in-cypher/68518/6 "2014-08-11T06:04:14Z")
> [@sparhawk](#): > > It’s the yoyofactory death grip. They make their bearing seats super tight so some people end up having trouble with them from time to time but it helps make them smooth. Will putting lube on the inner circle help? ---
**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2014, 6:27am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bearing-wont-go-in-cypher/68518/7 "2014-08-11T06:27:28Z")
There’s pretty much zero chance the lube will penetrate between the bearing and the seat in a meaningful way at this point. If you manage to get it free, your best bet is to LIGHTLY sand evenly around the seat with some fine-grit sandpaper (600 or so should remove some material without being too aggressive). You still want it snug, though… don’t take too much material off! ---
**Author:** ![Raigo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/raigo/32/1446_2.png) [@Raigo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Raigo)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2014, 7:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bearing-wont-go-in-cypher/68518/8 "2014-08-11T07:00:49Z")
> [@GregP](#): > > There’s pretty much zero chance the lube will penetrate between the bearing and the seat in a meaningful way at this point. > > If you manage to get it free, your best bet is to LIGHTLY sand evenly around the seat with some fine-grit sandpaper (600 or so should remove some material without being too aggressive). You still want it snug, though… don’t take too much material off! Ok sounds good. I was talking about maybe putting it there to make it easier to take out when you have to ---
**Author:** ![doodads341](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@doodads341](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/doodads341)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2014, 8:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bearing-wont-go-in-cypher/68518/9 "2014-08-11T20:02:48Z")
Could it be that your bearing would be too tight too loose or perhaps too big? ---
**Author:** ![popdada](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/popdada/32/629_2.png) [@popdada](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/popdada)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2014, 9:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bearing-wont-go-in-cypher/68518/10 "2014-08-11T21:27:59Z")
Yeah… I can not get this bearing out of mine… And I’ve pulled a lot of bearings… Suck cause it came dead and it’s causing a ton of vibe… ---
**Author:** ![NathanC](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nathanc/32/891_2.png) [@NathanC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/NathanC)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2014, 10:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bearing-wont-go-in-cypher/68518/11 "2014-08-11T22:12:50Z")
Popped the bearing out of mine with a YYF tool in a couple seconds. No big deal. ---
**Author:** ![popdada](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/popdada/32/629_2.png) [@popdada](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/popdada)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2014, 11:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bearing-wont-go-in-cypher/68518/12 "2014-08-11T23:27:40Z")
> [@NathanC](#): > > Popped the bearing out of mine with a YYF tool in a couple seconds. No big deal. Out of stock at yye…! ---
**Author:** ![Yoyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/41988e/32.png) [@Yoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyo)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2014, 11:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bearing-wont-go-in-cypher/68518/13 "2014-08-11T23:35:39Z")
> [@popdada](#): > > Out of stock at yye…! Try monkeyfingures! ---
**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2014, 12:09am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bearing-wont-go-in-cypher/68518/14 "2014-08-12T00:09:05Z")
The monkeyfinger bearing puller is no good, unfortunately. I really wanted to like that tool, too. Didn’t the pack COME with the bearing tool?? In any event, a 1/4" drill bit will do the trick as long as you get the axle out of the way. There’s also one by C3 that I know is hiding in a bin at YYE but isn’t in their online stock. Hmmm… ---
**Author:** ![NathanC](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nathanc/32/891_2.png) [@NathanC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/NathanC)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2014, 12:32am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bearing-wont-go-in-cypher/68518/15 "2014-08-12T00:32:16Z")
Big fan of a 1/4" drill bit. Probably cheaper too. YYF tool doesn’t work well at all with an axle in there anyway. ---
**Author:** ![popdada](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/popdada/32/629_2.png) [@popdada](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/popdada)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2014, 1:42am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bearing-wont-go-in-cypher/68518/16 "2014-08-12T01:42:37Z")
I put it in the freezer… worked like a charm… ---
**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2014, 8:52am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bearing-wont-go-in-cypher/68518/17 "2014-08-12T08:52:34Z")
> [@sparhawk](#): > > It’s the yoyofactory death grip. They make their bearing seats super tight so some people end up having trouble with them from time to time but it helps make them smooth. Do tight bearing seats really help make it smooth? My Werrd Hour bearing seat was very loose - so loose that the bearing easily falls out if unscrewed and tipped - it plays incredibly smooth… ---
**Author:** ![rizki\_yoist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rizki_yoist/32/7925_2.png) [@rizki\_yoist](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rizki_yoist)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2014, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bearing-wont-go-in-cypher/68518/18 "2014-08-13T16:23:31Z")
> [@anon5341354](#): > > Do tight bearing seats really help make it smooth? My Werrd Hour bearing seat was very loose - so loose that the bearing easily falls out if unscrewed and tipped - it plays incredibly smooth… Theoretically yes… but I prefer (potentially having) little vibe over annoyingly tight bearing, that’s for sure. ---
**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2014, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bearing-wont-go-in-cypher/68518/19 "2014-08-16T17:09:43Z")
> [@anon5341354](#): > > Do tight bearing seats really help make it smooth?.. According to YYF, yes. But I have some incredibly smooth yoyos from HSPIN, SPYY, Difeyo and a number of others with loose bearing seats ---
**Author:** ![eaponce](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/49beb7/32.png) [@eaponce](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/eaponce)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2014, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/bearing-wont-go-in-cypher/68518/20 "2014-08-16T17:31:31Z")
> [@jhb8426](#): > > According to YYF, yes. But I have some incredibly smooth yoyos from HSPIN, SPYY, Difeyo and a number of others with loose bearing seats I think, and I may be wrong, that having a tight bearing seat reduces vibe when manufacturing occurs on a large scale like with YYF. If they had a looser bearing seat there would be a higher chance that a bearing seat loose enough to cause vibe slips through. The other companies, on the other hand, have smaller batches and can do more individual quality control so they don’t need such tight bearing seats. This is all speculation though 😛