# Back spin bind help **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Tricks\ **Created:** [May 17, 2016, 10:38am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/back-spin-bind-help/80482 "2016-05-17T10:38:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![TripleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ee7513/32.png) [@TripleOne](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TripleOne)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2016, 10:38am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/back-spin-bind-help/80482/1 "2016-05-17T10:38:03Z")
Hey guys, I’m having trouble to make the yoyo bind when I throw it upwards. Sometimes it tangles up after binding, sometimes I feel the sweet spot where it binds perfectly, and sometimes it won’t bind at all. Any tips to mastering this bind and make it look smooth? Please see link. [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/8/3/1/831677c38d847adb9434d4ca7b5a83df1ecfc500.jpeg "Back Spin Bind Variation with HS Breakdown") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqhGZcHw9vY) Thank you! ---
**Author:** ![antonizick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/antonizick/32/45948_2.png) [@antonizick](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/antonizick)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 2:53am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/back-spin-bind-help/80482/2 "2016-05-23T02:53:26Z")
So, the video you posted was excellent (I certainly cannot make improve on the vid) so I can only describe what it feels like to execute the bind. When you transition from the trapeze into an undermount the yoyo is set up for a bind. (the direction of the spin against the string-wrap around the axle). When I was learning this bind, I had a tendency to throw the yoyo too high too fast. What I found to be effective (for me) was to toss the yoyo up (gently) and try to get it to apex at eye level. As it reaches eye level, I tug downward slightly with my throw hand (which is now directly below the yoyo). Then just catch. Once I stopped throwing the yoyo to hard-quickly into the bind, I was able to use the undermount to transition to other binds as well. You’ll find that from an undermount you can not only do the vertical bind that your doing… but you can toss the yoyo down and to the side, or upward to 45 degree angles (either side). It’s neat because that one mechanic can drive many different (looking) binds. I hope this info is helpful to you. Good Luck! ---
**Author:** ![TripleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ee7513/32.png) [@TripleOne](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TripleOne)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 2:54am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/back-spin-bind-help/80482/3 "2016-05-23T02:54:37Z")
> [@antonizick](#): > > So, the video you posted was excellent (I certainly cannot make improve on the vid) so I can only describe what it feels like to execute the bind. > > When you transition from the trapeze into an undermount the yoyo is set up for a bind. (the direction of the spin against the string-wrap around the axle). > > When I was learning this bind, I had a tendency to throw the yoyo too high too fast. What I found to be effective (for me) was to toss the yoyo up (gently) and try to get it to apex at eye level. As it reaches eye level, I tug downward slightly with my throw hand (which is now directly below the yoyo). Then just catch. > > Once I stopped throwing the yoyo to hard-quickly into the bind, I was able to use the undermount to transition to other binds as well. You’ll find that from an undermount you can not only do the vertical bind that your doing… but you can toss the yoyo down and to the side, or upward to 45 degree angles (either side). It’s neat because that one mechanic can drive many different (looking) binds. > > I hope this info is helpful to you. Good Luck! This is very helpful. Thank you so much antonizick! ---
**Author:** ![kevinm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kevinm/32/697_2.png) [@kevinm](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kevinm)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 11:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/back-spin-bind-help/80482/4 "2016-05-25T23:59:31Z")
If you hold the string a little longer with you NTH, you will get the feel for when it is going to bind, it looks like you are kind of throwing the string after the yo-yo, which can cause the tangles and missed binds.