# Avant Garde playing as fixed axel **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Mods and Maintenance\ **Created:** [December 26, 2012, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/avant-garde-playing-as-fixed-axel/47118 "2012-12-26T18:17:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![cruton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/cruton/32/1227_2.png) [@cruton](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/cruton)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2012, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/avant-garde-playing-as-fixed-axel/47118/1 "2012-12-26T18:17:13Z")
So I got my Avante Garde in my Mystery Box yesterday. Managed to get the Colorway i wanted! Today i was finally able to throw it. Sad news. On first throw it was responsive. Ok w/e, that happens with new bearing sometimes. So upon further investigation. I noticed a small gap between the bearing and the yoyo. I assumed that it just wasn’t seated properly and tried to push it the rest of the way on. Man was that a terrible idea. It took a lot of force to get the the rest of the way in. So much so that I probably shouldn’t have done it. So I put the yoyo back together and gave it a throw and the bearing didn’t spin at all. It returned immediately. Uh Oh. Here is where it gets really bad. I took the yoyo back apart and I could get the bearing out, i tried my tool, pliers and freezer (at first 15 minutes, the 30, then 45) and nothing worked. I managed to work a small gap back underneath the bearing and got it off with a small screwdriver. I’m posting here and not contacting Andre because I believe that I damaged the yoyo trying to remove the bearing. I’m afraid to go any further. Any suggestions with be greatly appreciated. bearing with gap. sorry for the crappy quality I only have a phone. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/5/c/8/5c81b77f2854f0e8da561d840aa6a4f33a98c765.jpeg) I was trying to post other pictures but imgur stopped working for some reason. (reddit must be clogging lol) ---
**Author:** ![Shadowz143](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shadowz143/32/952_2.png) [@Shadowz143](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shadowz143)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2012, 6:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/avant-garde-playing-as-fixed-axel/47118/2 "2012-12-26T18:21:44Z")
Can’t tell at all what the picture is… You might have to go to the last resort and break the bearing in a vice. :-\ After that you would need to get the inner race off of the bearing post. :-\ ---
**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2012, 10:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/avant-garde-playing-as-fixed-axel/47118/3 "2012-12-26T22:40:04Z")
I removed image tags because of the size of the pic. Maybe you can resize or crop it. Looks like it’s taken from too close. ---
**Author:** ![Yonut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Yonut](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yonut)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2012, 6:25am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/avant-garde-playing-as-fixed-axel/47118/4 "2012-12-27T06:25:31Z")
I see what you did. Breaking the bearing could help. ---
**Author:** ![yoyospirit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyospirit/32/219875_2.png) [@yoyospirit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyospirit)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2012, 6:28am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/avant-garde-playing-as-fixed-axel/47118/5 "2012-12-27T06:28:06Z")
I can’t really tell what’s wrong from the pics, anyway you can provide quality pics? ---
**Author:** ![cruton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/cruton/32/1227_2.png) [@cruton](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/cruton)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 4:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/avant-garde-playing-as-fixed-axel/47118/6 "2012-12-28T04:02:29Z")
emailed YYF to see if they could help me out. worse that happens is they say that they can’t help right? here are some better picks. only of aftermath. i don’t want to put a bearing back on. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/c/0/7/c07a65b924eae07d4f7e18cb9371338ae4834ef3.jpeg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/e/d/8/ed8b88f15ae0b30d59230a744ee70b36841f13ae.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![yoyospirit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyospirit/32/219875_2.png) [@yoyospirit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyospirit)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 4:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/avant-garde-playing-as-fixed-axel/47118/7 "2012-12-28T04:07:41Z")
> [@cruton](#): > > emailed YYF to see if they could help me out. worse that happens is they say that they can’t help right? > > here are some better picks. only of aftermath. i don’t want to put a bearing back on. That was probably a defective bearing, the yoyo should be fine with some sanding on the rough spots and a new bearing. ---
**Author:** ![Yonut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Yonut](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yonut)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 5:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/avant-garde-playing-as-fixed-axel/47118/8 "2012-12-28T05:48:21Z")
> [@yoyospirit](#): > > > [@cruton](#): > > > > emailed YYF to see if they could help me out. worse that happens is they say that they can’t help right? > > > > here are some better picks. only of aftermath. i don’t want to put a bearing back on. > > That was probably a defective bearing, the yoyo should be fine with some sanding on the rough spots and a new bearing. It needs a lot of sanding to prevent it from sawing through strings. ---
**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 6:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/avant-garde-playing-as-fixed-axel/47118/9 "2012-12-28T06:33:43Z")
> [@Yonut](#): > > I see what you did. Breaking the bearing could help. Are you trying to be funny? You’re not. ---
**Author:** ![dynikus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dynikus/32/812_2.png) [@dynikus](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/dynikus)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 6:39am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/avant-garde-playing-as-fixed-axel/47118/10 "2012-12-28T06:39:57Z")
yyf has pretty good customer service, they’ll probably exchange it for you. they did for my yuuksta that was fubar due to manufacture defects. ---
**Author:** ![SR1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sr1/32/104603_2.png) [@SR1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SR1)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 7:12am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/avant-garde-playing-as-fixed-axel/47118/11 "2012-12-28T07:12:40Z")
That HAS to be replaced. That’s pretty messed up. ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 7:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/avant-garde-playing-as-fixed-axel/47118/12 "2012-12-28T07:18:21Z")
I think in this instance, I think the best bet is to contact YYF. I’m sounding really down on YYF lately. I’m not. I like YYF. However, I do have concerns with YYF products, namely this overly tight bearing seat stuff. ---
**Author:** ![stookie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/stookie/32/1071_2.png) [@stookie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stookie)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 10:20am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/avant-garde-playing-as-fixed-axel/47118/13 "2012-12-28T10:20:19Z")
I actually had a very similar problem with my Avant Garde. It didn’t get quite this bad, but the bearing seat and the bearing just did not play nice together. ---
**Author:** ![cruton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/cruton/32/1227_2.png) [@cruton](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/cruton)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/avant-garde-playing-as-fixed-axel/47118/14 "2012-12-28T16:10:46Z")
good news! YYF emailed me back. They are sending a replacement! ---
**Author:** ![SR1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sr1/32/104603_2.png) [@SR1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SR1)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/avant-garde-playing-as-fixed-axel/47118/15 "2012-12-28T16:14:59Z")
> [@cruton](#): > > good news! YYF emailed me back. They are sending a replacement! Thats awesome! Do you getta keep your old one? haha ---
**Author:** ![cruton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/cruton/32/1227_2.png) [@cruton](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/cruton)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/avant-garde-playing-as-fixed-axel/47118/16 "2012-12-28T17:17:10Z")
> [@SR1](#): > > > [@cruton](#): > > > > good news! YYF emailed me back. They are sending a replacement! > > Thats awesome! Do you getta keep your old one? haha they didn’t specify. ---
**Author:** ![Shadowz143](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shadowz143/32/952_2.png) [@Shadowz143](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shadowz143)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/avant-garde-playing-as-fixed-axel/47118/17 "2012-12-28T18:10:10Z")
> [@cruton](#): > > > [@SR1](#): > > > > > [@cruton](#): > > > > > > good news! YYF emailed me back. They are sending a replacement! > > > > Thats awesome! Do you getta keep your old one? haha > > they didn’t specify. Then probably yes! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Yonut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Yonut](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yonut)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/avant-garde-playing-as-fixed-axel/47118/18 "2012-12-28T21:10:00Z")
> [@jhb8426](#): > > > [@Yonut](#): > > > > I see what you did. Breaking the bearing could help. > > Are you trying to be funny? You’re not. No, from the old picture I thought the bearing was warped and got stuck at a weird angle. ---
**Author:** ![cruton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/cruton/32/1227_2.png) [@cruton](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/cruton)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2013, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/avant-garde-playing-as-fixed-axel/47118/19 "2013-01-05T22:07:51Z")
got my new Avante Garde today. they didn’t have anymore blue/silver so they sent me a black/red. it has a Matte finish on it. Or at least it feels matte. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/4/f/5/4f57da9fa3a713ae954167b861aa93bd409d6252.jpeg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/6/4/2/6424ab3ae35271f5aadcf9ba5b0cb8e083c48136.jpeg)