# AP 2014 Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [July 4, 2014, 3:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ap-2014-discussion-thread/67523 "2014-07-04T15:27:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Philip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Philip](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Philip)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 3:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ap-2014-discussion-thread/67523/1 "2014-07-04T15:27:51Z")
Anybody watching the live stream? Finals Qualifiers: 5A: - Naoya Takeuchi - Muhammad Shakeel Mohd Rose - Wu Jun Jie - Lee Wei Ting - Teruo Kameya - Ian Loh - Jaued Cervas - Tatsunori Yoshiba - Zhu Sheng-Yong - Hobbit Xiao-Wen Wang 4A: - Shotaro Masuda - Sean Hung - Tomohiko Zanka - Chang Chih Chieh - Teruo Kameya - Lee Min Woo - Dewanta Fachrureza - Wee Teng Ee - Lin Jia Her - Cai Zhi Ming 3A: - Taiichiro Higashi - Chen Kun - Teruo Kameya - Chen Junhao - Jason Kao Chung Chern - Chong Yichen - Li Tiancheng 2A: - Shinji Saito - Shunsuke Kawakami - Shuhei Kanai - Hiraku Fuji - Tomoyuki Kaneko - Yu Kizami - Ryuya Kaneko 1A: - Hiroyuki Suzuki - Iori Yamaki - Yamato Murata - Izuru Hasumi - Takahiro Kato - Kazuya Murata - Marcus Koh - Toya Kobayashi - Sun Yu Qi - Darrell Mitchell - Chow Chakron - Ikumi Kato - Shion Araya - Zhao Chen - Dong Ruida Source - [Redirecting...](https://www.facebook.com/asiapacyoyo) Some videos are already being uploaded here - [https://www.youtube.com/user/c3yoyodesign/videos](https://www.youtube.com/user/c3yoyodesign/videos) ---
**Author:** ![Philip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Philip](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Philip)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 3:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ap-2014-discussion-thread/67523/2 "2014-07-04T15:28:22Z")
Hard to believe Shinya didn’t make it ???. I’m also surprised at how low Shion Araya placed considering how clean he went ---
**Author:** ![Philip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Philip](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Philip)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ap-2014-discussion-thread/67523/3 "2014-07-04T20:16:27Z")
What’s you Top 3 1A Prediction? Mine is Chris Chia - 1st Ahmad Kharisma - 2nd Hiroyuki Suzuki - 3rd ---
**Author:** ![Rixtify](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rixtify/32/16_2.png) [@Rixtify](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Rixtify)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2014, 5:12am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ap-2014-discussion-thread/67523/4 "2014-07-06T05:12:53Z")
Predictions are Hajime Miura has enough to place top 3 at worlds based on his I think flawless freestyle this year. You’ll have to see it yourself Don’t know final results so I’m still rooting for pornpinit sanprasert, shinji saito, Zafran aqil, and Bryan jardin ---
**Author:** ![LeftyLink](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/leftylink/32/1321_2.png) [@LeftyLink](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LeftyLink)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2014, 5:26am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ap-2014-discussion-thread/67523/5 "2014-07-06T05:26:18Z")
I’m watching the stream and DANNNNNNG Marcus went really clean unless he messed up which the stream lagged a bit. I really want him to win; time for him to get an AP title ;D ---
**Author:** ![Raptor\_T](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/raptor_t/32/111715_2.png) [@Raptor\_T](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Raptor_T)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2014, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ap-2014-discussion-thread/67523/6 "2014-07-06T13:55:48Z")
Ahmad Kharisma WON! His freestyle was awesome, so many techy bangers, even though he messed up. ---
**Author:** ![naoki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/naoki/32/843_2.png) [@naoki](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/naoki)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2014, 2:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ap-2014-discussion-thread/67523/7 "2014-07-06T14:49:39Z")
Iori Yamaki should have won ---
**Author:** ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2014, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ap-2014-discussion-thread/67523/8 "2014-07-06T16:34:48Z")
> [@naoki](#): > > Iori Yamaki should have won You’re wrong. He shouldn’t have won. Are you saying you know the judges’ job better than them? ---
**Author:** ![naoki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/naoki/32/843_2.png) [@naoki](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/naoki)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2014, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ap-2014-discussion-thread/67523/9 "2014-07-06T16:48:42Z")
It’s extremely hard to be a judge, it’s extremely hard to judge perfectly, no one can judge perfectly. That’s why it’s perfectly fine to criticize the judges’ job. That’s what makes things change. Behind my screen I can see the freestyles with more recoil than the judges, without the fatigue and most of the cons of judging dozens of freestyles in such a big event. I dare you to say judges never commit any mistakes at all, and judge every single freestyle with a 100% accuracy. ---
**Author:** ![Raigo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/raigo/32/1446_2.png) [@Raigo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Raigo)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2014, 4:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ap-2014-discussion-thread/67523/10 "2014-07-06T16:52:40Z")
wait, did takeshi matsuura not make it??? ---
**Author:** ![naoki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/naoki/32/843_2.png) [@naoki](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/naoki)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2014, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ap-2014-discussion-thread/67523/11 "2014-07-06T16:55:39Z")
He couldn’t take part in the competition ---
**Author:** ![Raigo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/raigo/32/1446_2.png) [@Raigo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Raigo)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2014, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ap-2014-discussion-thread/67523/12 "2014-07-06T17:01:07Z")
bummer 😕 He probably wouldve won xD or at least top 3 ---
**Author:** ![Philip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Philip](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Philip)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2014, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ap-2014-discussion-thread/67523/13 "2014-07-06T20:10:40Z")
> [@Raigo](#): > > bummer 😕 > He probably wouldve won xD > or at least top 3 totally agree. 5a would’ve been a cinch to; there was hardly any competition ---
**Author:** ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2014, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ap-2014-discussion-thread/67523/14 "2014-07-06T20:45:29Z")
> [@naoki](#): > > It’s extremely hard to be a judge, it’s extremely hard to judge perfectly, no one can judge perfectly. That’s why it’s perfectly fine to criticize the judges’ job. That’s what makes things change. Behind my screen I can see the freestyles with more recoil than the judges, without the fatigue and most of the cons of judging dozens of freestyles in such a big event. > > I dare you to say judges never commit any mistakes at all, and judge every single freestyle with a 100% accuracy. I never said that. Ahmad should have won because he is better, he was clean (except for the switch out), and the judges won’t make mistakes often. ---
**Author:** ![naoki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/naoki/32/843_2.png) [@naoki](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/naoki)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2014, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ap-2014-discussion-thread/67523/15 "2014-07-06T20:54:49Z")
[https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10492072\_10152537701124344\_8195859453774735781\_n.png](https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10492072_10152537701124344_8195859453774735781_n.png) I honestly think the gap between Ahmad and Iori in P.ev should have been bigger, therefore I think Iori should have won. It’s not that I don’t like Ahmad or he didn’t do well. ---
**Author:** ![BenM36](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/benm36/32/646268_2.png) [@BenM36](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/BenM36)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2014, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ap-2014-discussion-thread/67523/16 "2014-07-06T21:16:15Z")
Wait did Peter Pong or any of those C3 guys go? ---
**Author:** ![Philip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Philip](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Philip)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2014, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ap-2014-discussion-thread/67523/17 "2014-07-07T13:16:52Z")
A bunch of C3 players went, just no P-Pong. ---
**Author:** ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2014, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ap-2014-discussion-thread/67523/18 "2014-07-07T15:07:46Z")
> [@naoki](#): > > [https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10492072\_10152537701124344\_8195859453774735781\_n.png](https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10492072_10152537701124344_8195859453774735781_n.png) > > I honestly think the gap between Ahmad and Iori in P.ev should have been bigger, therefore I think Iori should have won. It’s not that I don’t like Ahmad or he didn’t do well. No, Iori probably got more points than he deserved. He made a horrible music choice, and he didn’t have great body control, and I don’t get why he had more showmanship than ahmad. ---
**Author:** ![naoki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/naoki/32/843_2.png) [@naoki](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/naoki)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2014, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ap-2014-discussion-thread/67523/19 "2014-07-07T15:16:59Z")
No, you’re wrong. Are you saying you know better than the judges how many points he deserved? ---
**Author:** ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2014, 3:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ap-2014-discussion-thread/67523/20 "2014-07-07T15:46:27Z")
> [@naoki](#): > > No, you’re wrong. Are you saying you know better than the judges how many points he deserved? lol you got me. But no, I don’t.