# Anyone tried yyf pragma? **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [August 13, 2019, 2:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/anyone-tried-yyf-pragma/306811 "2019-08-13T02:00:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Boy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Boy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Boy)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 2:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/anyone-tried-yyf-pragma/306811/1 "2019-08-13T02:00:50Z")
How does it play? Also compared to the singularity? ---
**Author:** ![Nocompromise](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nocompromise/32/177371_2.png) [@Nocompromise](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Nocompromise)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 2:32am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/anyone-tried-yyf-pragma/306811/2 "2019-08-13T02:32:47Z")
I haven’t spent a ton of time with it, but it’s significantly different from the Singularity. The Singularity plays heavier, more solid, sluggish and perhaps marginally more rim weighted. The Pragma has more moderate agility and a hollow rather than solid feel. It seems quite well rounded, but not particularly outstanding in any one aspect. ---
**Author:** ![adamantiumpops](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/adamantiumpops/32/198285_2.png) [@adamantiumpops](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/adamantiumpops)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 3:21am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/anyone-tried-yyf-pragma/306811/3 "2019-08-13T03:21:53Z")
The Pragma is now the ‘good throw’ I keep at work. I have a gamer for conference calls, a proyo for nostalgia, a first base for curious coworkers and a Pragma for myself. Like @Nocompromise said, it’s a good all-arounder. Reminds me more of the Astraea than the singularity because of the steps that make it almost round. A bit more comfy than the singularity, and definitely has that ‘hollow’ feeling. Overall I am super stoked I got it, and knowing how good it is I would say it’s definitely worth the retail price. If you post a LF post you will very likely find someone selling one WELL below retail too. ---
**Author:** ![Throwto100](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/throwto100/32/87184_2.png) [@Throwto100](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Throwto100)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/anyone-tried-yyf-pragma/306811/4 "2019-09-26T18:03:41Z")
The one I tried at chi yoyo club had a bad bearing, but a new bearing fixed any issues. It felt pretty hollow, and “round” as they say, but had a very powerful feel coming back to my hand even at low spin. Kinda liked the ginormous brass rings too. ---
**Author:** ![nonja121](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nonja121/32/52722_2.png) [@nonja121](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nonja121)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/anyone-tried-yyf-pragma/306811/5 "2019-09-26T18:11:03Z")
I thought they were SS rings. Are they brass? ---
**Author:** ![Throwto100](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/throwto100/32/87184_2.png) [@Throwto100](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Throwto100)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/anyone-tried-yyf-pragma/306811/6 "2019-09-30T16:28:11Z")
I asked the guy who owned it and he said he thought so. ---
**Author:** ![nonja121](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nonja121/32/52722_2.png) [@nonja121](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nonja121)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2019, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/anyone-tried-yyf-pragma/306811/7 "2019-09-30T17:53:09Z")
I own one and I’m pretty sure it’s SS rings but I could be wrong. @yyfben2.deactivated? ---
**Author:** ![ColinBecko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/colinbecko/32/54758_2.png) [@ColinBecko](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ColinBecko)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 1:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/anyone-tried-yyf-pragma/306811/8 "2019-10-01T01:33:22Z")
I think it’s just a typical aluminum/stainless steel yoyo but I could be wrong… Pragma was super good when I tried it at Worlds, likely is in my top 3 favorite yoyofactory yoyos in recent times. ---
**Author:** ![Imdavid122](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/imdavid122/32/87913_2.png) [@Imdavid122](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Imdavid122)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 1:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/anyone-tried-yyf-pragma/306811/9 "2019-10-01T01:48:21Z")
Whats ur top 3? ---
**Author:** ![ColinBecko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/colinbecko/32/54758_2.png) [@ColinBecko](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ColinBecko)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/anyone-tried-yyf-pragma/306811/10 "2019-10-01T12:16:30Z")
edge, pragma, bind ---
**Author:** ![Imdavid122](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/imdavid122/32/87913_2.png) [@Imdavid122](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Imdavid122)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 3:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/anyone-tried-yyf-pragma/306811/11 "2019-10-01T15:05:17Z")
Nice