# Any word on this new version of Miracle? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [September 19, 2024, 5:19am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/any-word-on-this-new-version-of-miracle/409706 "2024-09-19T05:19:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![JYinLaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a88e57/32.png) [@JYinLaw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JYinLaw)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 5:19am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/any-word-on-this-new-version-of-miracle/409706/1 "2024-09-19T05:19:50Z")
![IMG_9477](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/8/a/2/8a2b4276eecdc3621e400d280453388143d83af2.jpeg) ![IMG_9479](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/b/9/4/b943c4be110f0e6e6673bd91d48099b185fab6a5.jpeg) Found this from a Chinese seller, the spec is Diameter: 55.64, width: 50.75, weight: 67.86, a pretty significant increase of width and weight from 48 and 65.5. I can see that the PC rim is now not all the way to the edge, but in case near the edge and flush with the aluminum edge, I guess that would prevent the previous rim shift issue, but not sure what it would do to the weight distribution. Anyone have any idea how this new Miracle plays? And when it would be available on YYE? ---
**Author:** ![CrazyGentrySteinFan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/crazygentrysteinfan/32/306420_2.png) [@CrazyGentrySteinFan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/CrazyGentrySteinFan)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 5:54am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/any-word-on-this-new-version-of-miracle/409706/2 "2024-09-19T05:54:10Z")
here’s a Rei Iwakura review on it: [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PSuuvpdWNUc](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PSuuvpdWNUc) ---
**Author:** ![Lex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/lex/32/1599_2.png) [@Lex](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Lex)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 7:06am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/any-word-on-this-new-version-of-miracle/409706/3 "2024-09-19T07:06:03Z")
It’s a prototype for the next version of the Miracle and is part of this whole “[…] 2025” thing YYF is doing similar to with the Starlight proto that was released recently. Here’s YYF’s post about it: [https://www.instagram.com/p/C-6J3MCS-IA/?igsh=aTcyY3c1czE5NXI3](https://www.instagram.com/p/C-6J3MCS-IA/?igsh=aTcyY3c1czE5NXI3) ---
**Author:** ![yoyodoc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyodoc/32/48820_2.png) [@yoyodoc](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyodoc)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/any-word-on-this-new-version-of-miracle/409706/4 "2024-09-19T07:15:39Z")
> [@CrazyGentrySteinFan](#): > > here’s The Miracle that Rei reviewing, is not the Miracle in the image the OP posted🤓 ---
**Author:** ![JYinLaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a88e57/32.png) [@JYinLaw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JYinLaw)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 9:16am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/any-word-on-this-new-version-of-miracle/409706/5 "2024-09-19T09:16:20Z")
ohhh that’s very interesting, so within a month it has been sent to the market from just being a prototype, that’s very fast turn over ---
**Author:** ![Lex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/lex/32/1599_2.png) [@Lex](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Lex)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/any-word-on-this-new-version-of-miracle/409706/6 "2024-09-19T09:38:00Z")
I think it’s still a proto, they’re just releasing it and it’ll probably be iterated upon until they release a final design next year. This for both the Starlight and new Miracle. ---
**Author:** ![Exmime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/exmime/32/40143_2.png) [@Exmime](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Exmime)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/any-word-on-this-new-version-of-miracle/409706/7 "2024-09-19T12:15:41Z")
All I know is that it has “[Pierced Nipples](https://www.instagram.com/p/C_sVs2Sy7-1/?hl=en&img_index=1)” ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/f/5/6/f56043679bca61e0a8bf7c2f919c44e676cce6d9.png) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/b/2/b/b2bde5196eb7fbce37998290f2a38ae3d9bb18fc.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Yoyomikie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyomikie/32/593857_2.png) [@Yoyomikie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyomikie)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 2:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/any-word-on-this-new-version-of-miracle/409706/8 "2024-09-19T14:20:51Z")
Yooo they really put “the nipples are pierced” 🤣 I’m dying 😆:skull:😭 Something definitely got lost in translation ---
**Author:** ![SlowThrow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slowthrow/32/307451_2.png) [@SlowThrow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SlowThrow)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 3:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/any-word-on-this-new-version-of-miracle/409706/9 "2024-09-19T15:24:26Z")
Stated so confidently, too. “The nipples are pierced.” :joy:🤣:joy: ---
**Author:** ![Exmime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/exmime/32/40143_2.png) [@Exmime](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Exmime)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/any-word-on-this-new-version-of-miracle/409706/10 "2024-09-19T22:05:54Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/5/9/3/593519d1339800716d86972234f6794b77cc5cbf.jpeg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/0/c/1/0c1c26e61a027ec822353e1a55717b48ef8c1a36.gif) ---
**Author:** ![CrazyGentrySteinFan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/crazygentrysteinfan/32/306420_2.png) [@CrazyGentrySteinFan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/CrazyGentrySteinFan)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 10:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/any-word-on-this-new-version-of-miracle/409706/11 "2024-09-19T22:39:55Z")
well yeah sure ---
**Author:** ![CrazyGentrySteinFan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/crazygentrysteinfan/32/306420_2.png) [@CrazyGentrySteinFan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/CrazyGentrySteinFan)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 10:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/any-word-on-this-new-version-of-miracle/409706/12 "2024-09-19T22:42:09Z")
those “Nipples” are actually nubs that help the axle sit in place firmly if the aluminum is very thin and there is lots of weight placed on the stainless steel rims(Brass rims, in the case of the miracle) if the nubs are pierced, you may have some issues with playability and you may have a cheap yoyo that won’t last for long. ---
**Author:** ![Tempura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/tempura/32/246135_2.png) [@Tempura](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Tempura)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 11:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/any-word-on-this-new-version-of-miracle/409706/13 "2024-09-19T23:10:08Z")
They’re actually where young yoyos get their milk from ---
**Author:** ![CrazyGentrySteinFan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/crazygentrysteinfan/32/306420_2.png) [@CrazyGentrySteinFan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/CrazyGentrySteinFan)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2024, 1:39am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/any-word-on-this-new-version-of-miracle/409706/14 "2024-09-20T01:39:31Z")
from the “whos bad” picture, did that mean this is the prototype Mir Kim used to win worlds 2024? if so i’m def coppin this one ---
**Author:** ![JYinLaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a88e57/32.png) [@JYinLaw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JYinLaw)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2024, 1:53am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/any-word-on-this-new-version-of-miracle/409706/16 "2024-09-20T01:53:22Z")
dont think so, the MC specifically stated that Mir was using an aluminum rim version of the miracle before his freestyle started ---
**Author:** ![CrazyGentrySteinFan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/crazygentrysteinfan/32/306420_2.png) [@CrazyGentrySteinFan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/CrazyGentrySteinFan)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2024, 2:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/any-word-on-this-new-version-of-miracle/409706/17 "2024-09-20T02:33:20Z")
at least chinese sellers are smart enough to use center track bearings ---
**Author:** ![Tempura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/tempura/32/246135_2.png) [@Tempura](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Tempura)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2024, 2:44am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/any-word-on-this-new-version-of-miracle/409706/18 "2024-09-20T02:44:21Z")
I got to try the version of the 25 miracle with Al rims at worlds (Andre’s personal one 😯). Nothing really stood out to me play wise, so I don’t have much to say, but it does exist. ---
**Author:** ![Lex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/lex/32/1599_2.png) [@Lex](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Lex)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2024, 7:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/any-word-on-this-new-version-of-miracle/409706/19 "2024-09-20T07:01:38Z")
No, he used a standard Miracle. ---
**Author:** ![Exmime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/exmime/32/40143_2.png) [@Exmime](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Exmime)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2024, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/any-word-on-this-new-version-of-miracle/409706/20 "2024-09-20T13:04:06Z")
Goat Performance none the least [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/c/3/5/c3573e7abee1716a2ff55acfb255334bb317bee8.jpeg "2024 World YoYo Champion Mir Kim - #WYYC2024 - 1A Final - 1st Place") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYWOwzpSBd0) ---
**Author:** ![yoyodoc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyodoc/32/48820_2.png) [@yoyodoc](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyodoc)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2024, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/any-word-on-this-new-version-of-miracle/409706/21 "2024-09-20T16:57:45Z")
> [@CrazyGentrySteinFan](#): > > those “Nipples” are actually nubs that help the axle sit in place firmly if the aluminum is very thin and there is lots of weight placed on the stainless steel rims(Brass rims, in the case of the miracle) if the nubs are pierced, you may have some issues with playability and you may have a cheap yoyo that won’t last for long. How did you arrive at this conclusion? [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/any-word-on-this-new-version-of-miracle/409706.md?page=2)