# Any Modders still about?

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/any-modders-still-about/345857>\
**Category:** Yo-Yo Mods and Maintenance\
**Created:** [October 10, 2021, 1:21am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/any-modders-still-about/345857 "2021-10-10T01:21:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![adamantiumpops](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/adamantiumpops/32/198285_2.png) [@adamantiumpops](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/adamantiumpops)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2021, 1:21am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/any-modders-still-about/345857/1 "2021-10-10T01:21:34Z")

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I’m wondering if there are any Modders still active that could:  
A. Tell me about any mods possible on a YYJ X-Convict or Buzz-On Element X?  
B. Do said mods for me (for money) if I can’t do them myself.

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**Author:** ![sparhawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@sparhawk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sparhawk)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2021, 4:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/any-modders-still-about/345857/2 "2021-10-10T04:01:44Z")

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@pyrotechnic is still active

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**Author:** ![adamantiumpops](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/adamantiumpops/32/198285_2.png) [@adamantiumpops](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/adamantiumpops)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2021, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/any-modders-still-about/345857/3 "2021-10-10T21:37:59Z")

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@pyrotechnic you out here?

Also @yoyodoc you do any mods still? Or could you enlighten me about the two models in my OP?

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**Author:** ![pyrotechnic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pyrotechnic/32/689058_2.png) [@pyrotechnic](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/pyrotechnic)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2021, 11:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/any-modders-still-about/345857/4 "2021-10-10T23:35:33Z")

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Not many mods that can be done to the Xcon besides removing the O-rings and silicone. And the EleX depends on which version you have.

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**Author:** ![adamantiumpops](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/adamantiumpops/32/198285_2.png) [@adamantiumpops](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/adamantiumpops)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 12:34am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/any-modders-still-about/345857/5 "2021-10-11T00:34:59Z")

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It’s a remix. Blue with black rings, if it matters. Brass… Spacers? Not familiar at all with that era’s terminology.

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**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/any-modders-still-about/345857/6 "2021-10-11T21:51:18Z")

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Element X:  
the yo-yo was available in three variations: the original Element X (small bearing SPR), the **Element X Remix** (medium bearing SPR), and the **Element X Playa** (large bearing SPR).

The “brass spacers” are the SPR kit, basically the bearing seat and where the stickers mount. The SPR kit as noted above was used to enable the use of different size bearings in the same body.

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**Author:** ![adamantiumpops](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/adamantiumpops/32/198285_2.png) [@adamantiumpops](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/adamantiumpops)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/any-modders-still-about/345857/7 "2021-10-11T22:28:06Z")

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That’s very interesting! Thank you! Was/is there an SPR kit that would allow for a C bearing and modern pads/silicone? Really wanting to breathe some new life into this bad mamma jamma.

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**Author:** ![yomeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/f04885/32.png) [@yomeister](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yomeister)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/any-modders-still-about/345857/8 "2021-10-11T22:37:44Z")

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Yes. The “Playa” is a modern C-bearing system that takes current sticker response pads.

Is your SPR recessed into the body or does it sit flush against the body?

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**Author:** ![adamantiumpops](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/adamantiumpops/32/198285_2.png) [@adamantiumpops](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/adamantiumpops)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 10:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/any-modders-still-about/345857/9 "2021-10-11T22:48:53Z")

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![PXL_20211011_224755108](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/2/7/9/2790a8bfdb25621010367f9a9c5accb6d60b9255.jpeg)  
Recessed for sure.

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**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2021, 1:54am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/any-modders-still-about/345857/10 "2021-10-12T01:54:59Z")

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> [@adamantiumpops](#):
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> Was/is there an SPR kit that would allow for a C bearing

I haven’t seen an SPR kit in any store for quite some time. Don’t think they are still available unless you can find someone willing to sell some.

From the yoyo wiki

> Sizes The SPR originally was introduced in only one size, the large C bearing, but it now comes in three different sizes: large, medium, and small. SPR kits can easily be placed in most yo-yos that use bearing spacers to allow the use of a different response option or a different sized bearing than the yo-yo originally had. Buzz-On currently produces most of their own line of yo-yos with SPR spacers recessed into the sides of the yo-yo.

I have used the original SPR kit to make a C bearing version of a Spintastics Tiger Shark.

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**Author:** ![adamantiumpops](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/adamantiumpops/32/198285_2.png) [@adamantiumpops](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/adamantiumpops)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2021, 2:31am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/any-modders-still-about/345857/11 "2021-10-12T02:31:47Z")

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Thank you again! A little bummed I’ll probably never find a kit. And the only Element X on the auction site is over $120.

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**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2021, 2:36am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/any-modders-still-about/345857/12 "2021-10-12T02:36:27Z")

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> [@adamantiumpops](#):
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> he only Element X on the auction site is over $120.

Wow, I recently sold two of them, one for $30 and one for $35… 🤢  
I thought I did good at that price.

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**Post date:** [October 12, 2021, 2:39am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/any-modders-still-about/345857/13 "2021-10-12T02:39:11Z")

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It’s new in packaging, so that’s a price hiker. Also a 2003 Nats limited edition.

 ![Screenshot_20211011-193822](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/1/8/5/185d12cca2f34f7c4e28d40cd0e8196d2c5bf30b.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [October 12, 2021, 2:43am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/any-modders-still-about/345857/14 "2021-10-12T02:43:28Z")

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Can I Dump Truck it? Fat Man it? Dual Wield it? What’s it called when you throw two bearings in there like some sort of savage?

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**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2021, 3:54am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/any-modders-still-about/345857/15 "2021-10-12T03:54:46Z")

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> [@adamantiumpops](#):
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> What’s it called when you throw two bearings in there

That’s called beef caking.

> [@adamantiumpops](#):
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> It’s new in packaging, so that’s a price hiker. Also a 2003 Nats limited edition.

Never knew they were that much in demand, even for new in package.

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**Post date:** [October 12, 2021, 4:04am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/any-modders-still-about/345857/16 "2021-10-12T04:04:56Z")

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> [@jhb8426](#):
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> beef caking

That’s it! Is it… Advisable?

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**Post date:** [October 12, 2021, 4:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/any-modders-still-about/345857/17 "2021-10-12T04:29:31Z")

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Better have an excellent bind… :wink:

At one point most C bearing yoyos had like a 3 to 3.5 mm gap. Then HSPIN came out with the G&E 4 with a 5 mm gap. For a lot of people it was unplayable at the time. It is admittedly more common now. I tried beef caking once and it never worked for me even with a well lubed bearing.

For what it’s worth, the HSpin Good and Evil 4 yoyo - Limited Save Deth Edition came out with a 4 mm gap version. It was well received. Before it was released I had already replce the original bearing in mine with a narrower bearing to make it 4 mm.

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**Author:** ![yomeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/f04885/32.png) [@yomeister](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yomeister)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 8:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/any-modders-still-about/345857/18 "2021-10-15T20:13:14Z")

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Let me know if you want a C-bearing one… I’ll dig through the ol’ bag and see if there’s one in there.

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**Author:** ![yomeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/f04885/32.png) [@yomeister](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yomeister)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/any-modders-still-about/345857/19 "2021-10-15T20:16:29Z")

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I love that colorway… Especially when we died them yellow… Came out a gorgeous green and yellow swirl. I think I still have one sitting around somewhere in that exact dyed color… lol

Also, the Menehune I used was this blue/white swirl colorway. I remember sanding them with the rough part of a nailbuffer so they would grind better!

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**Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/any-modders-still-about/345857/20 "2021-10-15T20:42:14Z")

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Bro YES PLEASE! I would love to get this bad boy running again with a modern bearing size. I also had a Menehune back when this one was fresh. I so regret getting rid of those early-mid 2000’s throws.

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