# Ammo, Venom, or Plutonium? **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [September 29, 2018, 11:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ammo-venom-or-plutonium/293471 "2018-09-29T23:36:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Niekro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/niekro/32/1541_2.png) [@Niekro](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Niekro)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 11:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ammo-venom-or-plutonium/293471/1 "2018-09-29T23:36:27Z")
I’m going to get another 100 fat nylon kitty string but I thought I’d try something new too. I’m a pretty slow learner and I only throw about 45 mins every two days so I don’t need high end but I want to try some anyway. Oh yeah, I’m only half way through the advanced tricks checklist. Recommendations? Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Dust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dust/32/83340_2.png) [@Dust](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Dust)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2018, 2:31am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ammo-venom-or-plutonium/293471/2 "2018-09-30T02:31:33Z")
instead of a bulk 100 pack, try 10 different 5 packs, or 5 different 10 packs to expand your flavor choices. the more the merrier until you find your real favorites. ---
**Author:** ![Niekro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/niekro/32/1541_2.png) [@Niekro](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Niekro)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2018, 2:40am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ammo-venom-or-plutonium/293471/3 "2018-09-30T02:40:54Z")
That sounds like a plan! ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2018, 2:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ammo-venom-or-plutonium/293471/4 "2018-09-30T02:48:34Z")
I can tell you Ammo is probably the fattest / thickest of those three. I have used venom a tiny bit (and I liked it), but never the newest Even Nagao Plutonium ones. Of Ammo / Venom I’d pick Ammo just because I like a fat string (it is most equivalent to XL on the Kitty side) ---
**Author:** ![Niekro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/niekro/32/1541_2.png) [@Niekro](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Niekro)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2018, 2:53am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ammo-venom-or-plutonium/293471/5 "2018-09-30T02:53:05Z")
Thanks for responding, I’m going with Dust’s suggestion and try both of those and others(Plutonium for sure). ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2018, 5:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ammo-venom-or-plutonium/293471/6 "2018-09-30T17:00:54Z")
I use Type X strings on nearly all my yoyos. However, I like to put Plutonium on yoyos with a really wide gap (4.75mm or wider) because it is just a little thicker than Type X and that helps with binds. I also have a single tube of Ammo but have not yet tried it. ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 12:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ammo-venom-or-plutonium/293471/7 "2018-12-23T00:05:36Z")
Oh yeah @MattB summarized in [YoYoStringLab - New Formula - #9 by dirty\_birdy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyostringlab-new-formula/289313/9) > **AMMO** - This is a thick version of Type X that I did for JD. Super nice for slack, but if you do a lot of layers in the gap, you have to be on top of your game. Softest of them all. > > **Venom** - Eric Koloski wanted something for his slack style, and if possible in a regular thickness, so we came up with Venom. It slacks more like AMMO, but about the same thickness as Type X. It’s softish, but not as soft as Type X. > > **Plutonium** - Evan Nagao tried out the existing types, and based on his thoughts, I did string variants and tensions to eventually come up with Plutonium. It’s slightly thicker than Type X and Venom without feeling big. The tension is tuned to Evan’s preference. It’s softer than basic string, but Type X is slightly softer than Plutonium. So it’s a nice balance of performance and feel. Here’s a closeup pic I’ve been meaning to take from the [$9.25 YYSL sampler pack](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/products/yoyo-string-lab-sampler-pack?variant=15391041552458) which is a fantastic starting point: outside lighting ![IMG_7295](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/5/2/8/5281767f8987db80d9c5f83a5a4dc590b06fb8d4.jpeg) inside lighting ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/0/3/8/03830b5b0f62339c97d00238bc52bf638e1ac6f9.jpeg) | | | | | --- | --- | --- | | blue | Type X | standard, soft | | green | Venom | more slack-y, less soft | | yellow | Plutonium | fatter, less soft | | red | AMMO | fattest, softest | So basically Type X and Venom are _roughly_ regular kitty thickness (though a tiny bit fatter) whereas Venom is more like kitty fat and AMMO is definitely kitty XL. ---
**Author:** ![Niekro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/niekro/32/1541_2.png) [@Niekro](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Niekro)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 12:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ammo-venom-or-plutonium/293471/8 "2018-12-23T00:48:28Z")
I bought a 10 pack of each, tried X and am working on Ammo. I was gonna buy a 100 of whichever I end up liking best but they last so long I might just get a 50 pack. ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 12:58am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ammo-venom-or-plutonium/293471/9 "2018-12-23T00:58:01Z")
I like AMMO a lot but as much as I love _teh fatness_ I am thinking it is a tiny bit too fat in the long run for some yo-yos. So I’m migrating towards plutonium at this point, need to test it out some more. (I think Type X is a bit too thin for modern wide-gap unresponsives, so as you can see I prefer my porridge neither too hot, nor too cold… 🥣) ---
**Author:** ![feryuweryu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/feryuweryu/32/42092_2.png) [@feryuweryu](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/feryuweryu)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ammo-venom-or-plutonium/293471/10 "2018-12-23T19:27:23Z")
I got two packs of TypeX last time, one in orange and one in blue lagoon. Strangely they felt pretty different … dunno why. ---
**Author:** ![MattB](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mattb/32/14529_2.png) [@MattB](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MattB)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 6:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ammo-venom-or-plutonium/293471/11 "2018-12-25T06:33:11Z")
Neon Orange seems to be the one color that people find different than the others. When I am looking and holding it, it feels slightly drier?, if that makes sense. I can’t always tell if I close my eyes, mix them up and try to pick it by feel, so the difference isn’t super obvious.