# Advice please, First OD throw, Downbeat or MMC? **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [October 19, 2018, 12:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/advice-please-first-od-throw-downbeat-or-mmc/294013 "2018-10-19T00:01:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MrMiracle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mrmiracle/32/29657_2.png) [@MrMiracle](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MrMiracle)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 12:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/advice-please-first-od-throw-downbeat-or-mmc/294013/1 "2018-10-19T00:01:24Z")
I’m itching for a new throw. I’ve been trying to be more careful with my throw selection, filling in where there are gaps. I’m relatively new and still finding myself, but I think I want an organic, specifically a side effect OD. This will be my first OD throw, and I’ve been looking at the downbeat and the MMC. I’ve never spent that much on a throw, so I’m a little shy and want to make absolutely sure I’m picking the right one. I’m also worried I’ll spend that much and be afraid of damaging the throw so I’ll never use it. Does anyone have any experiences to share with these two fine yoyos? Thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![Z\_Car](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/z_car/32/72879_2.png) [@Z\_Car](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Z_Car)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 12:27am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/advice-please-first-od-throw-downbeat-or-mmc/294013/2 "2018-10-19T00:27:15Z")
I havnt tried those, but i do have a Overture and i absolutely love it. I know its not a SE but i just had to say how incredible it is. A little cheaper too so you may not have fear of damaging it so bad. ---
**Author:** ![MrMiracle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mrmiracle/32/29657_2.png) [@MrMiracle](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MrMiracle)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/advice-please-first-od-throw-downbeat-or-mmc/294013/3 "2018-10-19T00:29:50Z")
Yeah I thought about that, and I took a long look at the gauntlet too, but I think I really want them side effects in my life. ---
**Author:** ![Z\_Car](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/z_car/32/72879_2.png) [@Z\_Car](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Z_Car)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 12:32am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/advice-please-first-od-throw-downbeat-or-mmc/294013/4 "2018-10-19T00:32:20Z")
I certainly dont blame you there. With my first OD i had the same thing in mind, thats how i landed on a Terrarian. ---
**Author:** ![Applepooh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/applepooh/32/40751_2.png) [@Applepooh](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Applepooh)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 1:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/advice-please-first-od-throw-downbeat-or-mmc/294013/5 "2018-10-19T01:07:42Z")
MMC Allday between those two. ---
**Author:** ![MrMiracle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mrmiracle/32/29657_2.png) [@MrMiracle](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MrMiracle)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 1:10am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/advice-please-first-od-throw-downbeat-or-mmc/294013/6 "2018-10-19T01:10:07Z")
That’s what I thought. I think I’m trying to save a buck, plus I like a heavy throw, but brass effects I think might make the Downbeat too much to handle. Does anyone know if you still get both side effects? ---
**Author:** ![Applepooh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/applepooh/32/40751_2.png) [@Applepooh](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Applepooh)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 1:16am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/advice-please-first-od-throw-downbeat-or-mmc/294013/7 "2018-10-19T01:16:18Z")
With the MMC you get two. The brass is at around 66g, the weight Mark intended the yoyo to play at. ---
**Author:** ![MarkD](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/markd/32/40845_2.png) [@MarkD](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MarkD)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 2:38am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/advice-please-first-od-throw-downbeat-or-mmc/294013/8 "2018-10-19T02:38:17Z")
The MarkMont Classic is so good. Worth the price! ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 2:59am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/advice-please-first-od-throw-downbeat-or-mmc/294013/9 "2018-10-19T02:59:08Z")
Yeah given the two in the title, it’s no contest: MMC. ---
**Author:** ![Rosenberg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rosenberg/32/20465_2.png) [@Rosenberg](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Rosenberg)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 3:03am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/advice-please-first-od-throw-downbeat-or-mmc/294013/10 "2018-10-19T03:03:44Z")
MC is my vote for sure (And it is “MC”) ---
**Author:** ![MrMiracle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mrmiracle/32/29657_2.png) [@MrMiracle](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MrMiracle)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 3:16am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/advice-please-first-od-throw-downbeat-or-mmc/294013/11 "2018-10-19T03:16:21Z")
Thanks all, I appreciate the responses. I always hear such good things about the MC\*, does it really live up to the hype? PS. I just ordered it, been stressing about it for too long already ---
**Author:** ![smileypants707](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/smileypants707/32/19045_2.png) [@smileypants707](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/smileypants707)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 3:52am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/advice-please-first-od-throw-downbeat-or-mmc/294013/12 "2018-10-19T03:52:38Z")
It’s a Cadillac 🕶 Definitely lives up to the hype ---
**Author:** ![beeebon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/beeebon/32/30672_2.png) [@beeebon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/beeebon)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 8:09am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/advice-please-first-od-throw-downbeat-or-mmc/294013/13 "2018-10-19T08:09:12Z")
Only OD I currently have is the Benchmark 2016 O which is obviously organic AND has side effects. I absolutely LOVE it! ---
**Author:** ![rockstar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rockstar/32/19803_2.png) [@rockstar](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rockstar)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 3:03am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/advice-please-first-od-throw-downbeat-or-mmc/294013/14 "2018-10-20T03:03:20Z")
Yeah…yeah…the MMC is the best choice w/side effects! But no side effects would be the Overture/Top Deck/Gauntlet/Mantis…without SE’s! So many good choices from OD! ---
**Author:** ![MrMiracle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mrmiracle/32/29657_2.png) [@MrMiracle](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MrMiracle)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/advice-please-first-od-throw-downbeat-or-mmc/294013/15 "2018-10-20T13:58:13Z")
Yeah i agree. I took a long hard look at the gauntlet, it basically checked all my boxes except for the side effects. It’s on the short list of throws to score in the not too distant future, especially at that price point i can carry it around all day and not break a sweat. ---
**Author:** ![shatterFX](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shatterfx/32/66476_2.png) [@shatterFX](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/shatterFX)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/advice-please-first-od-throw-downbeat-or-mmc/294013/16 "2018-10-20T16:25:07Z")
MMC was recently recommended to me, so I’ll go ahead and pass that recommendation onto you lol ---
**Author:** ![Myk\_Myk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/myk_myk/32/63087_2.png) [@Myk\_Myk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Myk_Myk)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/advice-please-first-od-throw-downbeat-or-mmc/294013/17 "2018-10-20T18:45:03Z")
Yep, Downbeat is cool, but go with MMC first! I actually love the Parlay even more, but would still say start with the MMC. ---
**Author:** ![Myk\_Myk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/myk_myk/32/63087_2.png) [@Myk\_Myk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Myk_Myk)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 1:16am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/advice-please-first-od-throw-downbeat-or-mmc/294013/18 "2018-10-22T01:16:18Z")
After this post, I’ve been really loving on my Downbeat. It really is a great yo-yo. The Parlay, MMC, and DB, seem like a set. Even though the Parlay is a collab, and the DB doesn’t have an IGR, they all seem like variations on a theme to me. I’m super glad to have all three! Still think the place to start is the MMC, but that not the place to stop. 😜 The Gauntlet is nice too, but I don’t play it as much as the other three. ---
**Author:** ![MrMiracle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mrmiracle/32/29657_2.png) [@MrMiracle](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MrMiracle)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 11:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/advice-please-first-od-throw-downbeat-or-mmc/294013/19 "2018-10-23T23:33:41Z")
Ok I got it. It’s the new favorite. Thanks for the input. ![IMG_20181023_124121790](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/9/1/2/9129d01104faecf995f0ac4211ae41ffc09a7a0a.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Applepooh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/applepooh/32/40751_2.png) [@Applepooh](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Applepooh)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 1:22am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/advice-please-first-od-throw-downbeat-or-mmc/294013/20 "2018-10-24T01:22:52Z")
Glad you’re enjoying it!