# Accusation of Cheating in OWYYC **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [November 16, 2022, 2:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/accusation-of-cheating-in-owyyc/365910 "2022-11-16T02:00:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![YoYoMa1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoma1/32/167867_2.png) [@YoYoMa1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYoMa1)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/accusation-of-cheating-in-owyyc/365910/41 "2022-11-17T20:25:45Z")
I think I may be on to something, I will post what I got soon ---
**Author:** ![LeftyThrower24](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/leftythrower24/32/264593_2.png) [@LeftyThrower24](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LeftyThrower24)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/accusation-of-cheating-in-owyyc/365910/42 "2022-11-17T20:27:59Z")
I think your idea is actually incredibly smart bro. I don’t math so I’m gonna let you guys take a swing at that, but definitely a great idea ---
**Author:** ![YoYoMa1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoma1/32/167867_2.png) [@YoYoMa1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYoMa1)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 9:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/accusation-of-cheating-in-owyyc/365910/43 "2022-11-17T21:35:59Z")
I have made some calculations trying to judge the speed of a free falling object and comparing it to the gravitational pull of 9.81ms^2. My idea is that if the video is sped up the yoyo should fall faster than possible. I thought he cheated but I now understand that you can’t judge the speed of the falling yoyo accurate enough to come to any conclusions. The camera angle isn’t straight forward, the yoyo may not fall straight down, the counterweight could be pulling on the yoyo etc. There are just too many factors. ---
**Author:** ![LeftyThrower24](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/leftythrower24/32/264593_2.png) [@LeftyThrower24](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LeftyThrower24)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/accusation-of-cheating-in-owyyc/365910/44 "2022-11-17T21:42:37Z")
Well this would certainly explain why he wouldn’t re-do the routine or give any raw footage of it to the judges lol ---
**Author:** ![Chriscatastrophe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/chriscatastrophe/32/111769_2.png) [@Chriscatastrophe](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Chriscatastrophe)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/accusation-of-cheating-in-owyyc/365910/45 "2022-11-17T21:45:08Z")
All of the things they asked for do seem like a hassle .not speaking down on them asking for it but as a working dad I can see it becoming an issue if you didn’t save the raw footage . Him not having raw footage doesn’t surprise me. He may have shot a long clip edited it to fit time frame , I would guess it took more than one take . If he is like me I just keep it running till I get it right . ---
**Author:** ![SR1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sr1/32/104603_2.png) [@SR1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SR1)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/accusation-of-cheating-in-owyyc/365910/46 "2022-11-17T21:52:02Z")
> [@YoYoMa1](#): > > I made my calculations Bruhhh I totally thought you were messing with us/joking about the physics calculations, but you were FORREAL :skull::skull::skull: ---
**Author:** ![YoYoMa1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoma1/32/167867_2.png) [@YoYoMa1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYoMa1)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/accusation-of-cheating-in-owyyc/365910/47 "2022-11-17T21:52:20Z")
Making a thread rn ---
**Author:** ![MoosaK](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moosak/32/116955_2.png) [@MoosaK](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MoosaK)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/accusation-of-cheating-in-owyyc/365910/48 "2022-11-17T22:35:04Z")
You cant do it like this imo. The frame rates too low and theres no way you can accurately gauge distance from the video ---
**Author:** ![YoYoMa1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoma1/32/167867_2.png) [@YoYoMa1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYoMa1)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 10:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/accusation-of-cheating-in-owyyc/365910/50 "2022-11-17T22:59:21Z")
> [@Prelim 5a discussion, speed of falling yoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/prelim-5a-discussion-speed-of-falling-yoyo/366017): > > This is how you calculate the distance that a free-falling object is travelling. I’m sure some of you remember this formula from physics class in school. [formula 1] d is the distance travelled, g is the gravitational acceleration which is 9,81ms/s^2 on earth and t the time that was spent falling. This formula is perfect for our case because the time is squared. That means that if an error was added to the time to make the time smaller, then the error will be squared too. I analyzed the aeri… ---
**Author:** ![vegabomb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/vegabomb/32/199_2.png) [@vegabomb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/vegabomb)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 11:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/accusation-of-cheating-in-owyyc/365910/51 "2022-11-17T23:43:19Z")
This is only an opinion but when I watched it I watched his hands. Not the yoyo or CW. His hands look like they’ve been sped up to me. ---
**Author:** ![MattB](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mattb/32/14529_2.png) [@MattB](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MattB)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/accusation-of-cheating-in-owyyc/365910/52 "2022-11-18T00:29:12Z")
I was going to post a video of me tying the end knots in strings, but it kinda happens unnaturally fast, so yeah… ---
**Author:** ![tropical\_vibes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/tropical_vibes/32/189325_2.png) [@tropical\_vibes](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/tropical_vibes)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 4:15am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/accusation-of-cheating-in-owyyc/365910/53 "2022-11-18T04:15:22Z")
Relevant. > [@Vietnam yoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/vietnam-yoyo/366041/): > > A Dislaimer from Vietnam yoyo community: We don’t wish to longer talking about such topic or involve in these guys business after this post Some of you might have known about the presence of these 2 buds from Vietnam which are known as “Tri Hai” and “Quoc Anh” for their suspicions online most lately about the debate of Quoc Anh’s DQ. Also their toxic rumors trying to put off the contests organizers and the yoyo community in Vietnam. (Some used to be posted … ---
**Author:** ![crackout](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/crackout/32/44608_2.png) [@crackout](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/crackout)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 6:53am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/accusation-of-cheating-in-owyyc/365910/54 "2022-11-18T06:53:30Z")
> [@unklesteve](#): > > We requested a new video with a clock in the background This should be mandatory for all entries anyway. ---
**Author:** ![chrisnotes86](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/chrisnotes86/32/173173_2.png) [@chrisnotes86](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/chrisnotes86)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/accusation-of-cheating-in-owyyc/365910/55 "2022-11-18T11:04:37Z")
Video seemed fine to me ---
**Author:** ![FourCorner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/fourcorner/32/122296_2.png) [@FourCorner](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/FourCorner)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/accusation-of-cheating-in-owyyc/365910/56 "2022-11-18T11:07:06Z")
Either way this guy is trying to pull a fast one. ---
**Author:** ![SlowYo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slowyo/32/162943_2.png) [@SlowYo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SlowYo)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/accusation-of-cheating-in-owyyc/365910/57 "2022-11-18T15:14:29Z")
i watched it 20 more times dude did not speed it up. i’ve seen tons of tiktok of players that speed up the combos its very obvious ---
**Author:** ![yoyospirit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyospirit/32/219875_2.png) [@yoyospirit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyospirit)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/accusation-of-cheating-in-owyyc/365910/58 "2022-11-18T15:37:28Z")
That spin was a dead give away imo. If you tried to accelerate that fast you’d tear your ACL. ---
**Author:** ![MoosaK](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moosak/32/116955_2.png) [@MoosaK](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MoosaK)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/accusation-of-cheating-in-owyyc/365910/59 "2022-11-18T15:43:49Z")
They dont, unless youre referring to smaller creators i dont know about ---
**Author:** ![SlowYo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slowyo/32/162943_2.png) [@SlowYo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SlowYo)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/accusation-of-cheating-in-owyyc/365910/60 "2022-11-18T16:43:08Z")
na its not any pros or well known guys. just random people. ya know those guys that put random effects on their clips and speed them up and or slow them down. just heavily over edited clips ---
**Author:** ![YoyoGeezer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyogeezer/32/755_2.png) [@YoyoGeezer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoyoGeezer)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 1:56am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/accusation-of-cheating-in-owyyc/365910/61 "2022-11-19T01:56:32Z")
All of this reminds me of the current accusations of cheating in championship chess. > **[Cheating Scandal That Rocked Chess Heads to Court With $100 Million...](https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/chess-cheating-scandal-defamation-lawsuit-1234616420/)** > > The 19-year-old grandmaster at the heart of the cheating scandal that has rocked the chess world has filed a $100 million defamation lawsuit against his main accuser and others. Technology is making things much more difficult to manage “fair play” than ever before. I do not see this getting any better; anytime soon. [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/accusation-of-cheating-in-owyyc/365910.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/accusation-of-cheating-in-owyyc/365910.md?page=4)