# A1 + A2 Hybrid Yoyo? **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [October 6, 2014, 2:36am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a1-a2-hybrid-yoyo/69923 "2014-10-06T02:36:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Sushin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Sushin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Sushin)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2014, 2:36am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a1-a2-hybrid-yoyo/69923/1 "2014-10-06T02:36:35Z")
Hi! I’m relatively new to yo-yoing about 2 months in and I’ve grown to love looping, but I also have a beginner string trick yo-yo that I’ve been using and I’ve got the side-mount down pretty well. What I’m looking for in a new yo-yo is something that I can use short string, but has a (at least slight) butterfly shape for landing on the string, and something with a return mechanism like a star burst thingy (not an auto return yo-yo) or whatever to make looping fairly natural. Basically I’m looking for a non-beginner yo-yo that is acceptable for looping and string tricks, but probably leaning more towards looping tricks. Can anyone help me out? ---
**Author:** ![Yoyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/41988e/32.png) [@Yoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyo)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2014, 2:57am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a1-a2-hybrid-yoyo/69923/2 "2014-10-06T02:57:35Z")
> **[Duncan](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/Duncan)** > > Duncan is the most widely recognized yo-yo name in the entire world. Since 1929, the name "Duncan" has been synonymous with "yo-yo" across the United States, and for good reason! Their yo-yos represent the top-of-the-line for beginners or... ---
**Author:** ![Sushin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Sushin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Sushin)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2014, 3:03am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a1-a2-hybrid-yoyo/69923/3 "2014-10-06T03:03:07Z")
> [@Yoyo](#): > > [Duncan – YoYoExpert](http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/698/Duncan-Pro-Z) That’s quite interesting, but what I’m looking for is something that can do looping and string tricks in the same combination of tricks, though this looks like it would probably work for that. ---
**Author:** ![Yoyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/41988e/32.png) [@Yoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyo)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2014, 3:04am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a1-a2-hybrid-yoyo/69923/4 "2014-10-06T03:04:01Z")
You can do 1a tricks with a 2a yoyo and vice versa. They will just be terrible at the other style. ---
**Author:** ![Sushin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Sushin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Sushin)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2014, 3:13am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a1-a2-hybrid-yoyo/69923/5 "2014-10-06T03:13:10Z")
> [@Yoyo](#): > > You can do 1a tricks with a 2a yoyo and vice versa. They will just be terrible at the other style. I know, thats kind of why I want a looping yoyo with a slight butterfly shape for catching the string. ---
**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2014, 3:39am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a1-a2-hybrid-yoyo/69923/6 "2014-10-06T03:39:03Z")
Butterfly shapes are generally not good loopers. The Duncan Pro-Z is probably your best alternative at this point. The Yomega Raider is a looper that was previously touted as an all around player. It is capable of string tricks, but not quite the same as a butterfly. ---
**Author:** ![Zortwil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ce7236/32.png) [@Zortwil](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Zortwil)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2014, 3:42am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a1-a2-hybrid-yoyo/69923/7 "2014-10-06T03:42:57Z")
You can get the velocity which has adjustable response. > **[Velocity](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/products/velocity-yoyo-by-yoyofactory)** > > When YoYoFactory first introduced the Velocity it was revolutionary. An all plastic yo-yo that with the spin of a dial you could adjust to go from beginner to expert! For years the Velocity has been the choice of beginner and intermediate yo-yo... ---
**Author:** ![yoyospirit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyospirit/32/219875_2.png) [@yoyospirit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyospirit)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2014, 3:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a1-a2-hybrid-yoyo/69923/8 "2014-10-06T03:46:14Z")
My recommendation is for you to pick up a YYJ Classic with the upgrade kit as well as a YYF Loop 360. The 2 combined is under $30, and are excellent at what they are designed for. Getting 1 throw that is excellent for looping and one throw that is excellent for string tricks is much better than getting 1 throw that is ok at both. If you are strictly want one throw however, and it will have to be responsive, I would recommend the Yoyojam Dragon Jam (won’t be able to find one on the YYE store), or a Yoyojam Speed Maker. ---
**Author:** ![Nikolai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/8491ac/32.png) [@Nikolai](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Nikolai)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2014, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a1-a2-hybrid-yoyo/69923/9 "2014-10-07T15:39:32Z")
Tom Kuhn nojive 3in-1 ---
**Author:** ![Sushin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Sushin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Sushin)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2014, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a1-a2-hybrid-yoyo/69923/10 "2014-10-07T18:52:43Z")
> [@Nikolai](#): > > Tom Kuhn nojive 3in-1 Hey…I think a “piggy back” or “pagoda” style yoyo is exactly what I’m looking for. Thanks for the suggestion. I might end up buying the flying camel (which is another similar nojive yoyo) and trying it out.