# A-RT Tryyyptyyychhh **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [August 4, 2019, 3:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-rt-tryyyptyyychhh/306332 "2019-08-04T15:06:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![yoyodoc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyodoc/32/48820_2.png) [@yoyodoc](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyodoc)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 12:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-rt-tryyyptyyychhh/306332/184 "2019-08-28T00:18:22Z")
You said\> “but I view this gap width decision as a conscious downgrade in performance with the intent of allowing for tighter binds and better regens”. I would not call the smaller gap a ‘downgrade’. I would say more of a conscious decision to ‘upgrade’ the yoyos’ bind and regen performance potential. ---
**Author:** ![eternalmetal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/eternalmetal/32/44877_2.png) [@eternalmetal](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/eternalmetal)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 12:28am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-rt-tryyyptyyychhh/306332/185 "2019-08-28T00:28:52Z")
Fair enough I guess, but everything aside from the yoyo coming back up (ie. unresponsive play in general, which this yoyo still qualifies as), it is a downgrade. It reminds me of those options in video games where you trade acceleration for speed, except you trade unresponsive string play for bindiness (im making up this word but you know what it means). ---
**Author:** ![Sinister\_Yoyos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sinister_yoyos/32/114006_2.png) [@Sinister\_Yoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Sinister_Yoyos)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 12:31am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-rt-tryyyptyyychhh/306332/186 "2019-08-28T00:31:43Z")
My black one shipped yesterday. It’s supposed to arrive by 9/5. ---
**Author:** ![yoyodoc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyodoc/32/48820_2.png) [@yoyodoc](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyodoc)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 1:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-rt-tryyyptyyychhh/306332/187 "2019-08-28T01:35:51Z")
I don’t see it as a downgrade at all. The gap was adjusted to address certain play characteristics. The yoyo wasn’t necessarily designed specifically to inspire you to purchase it. Most likely it was designed to appeal to those potential purchasers that would be fine with what it does and not to intentionally disappoint those that feel it should have been configured to meet their specific needs or expectations. ---
**Author:** ![eternalmetal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/eternalmetal/32/44877_2.png) [@eternalmetal](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/eternalmetal)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 1:55am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-rt-tryyyptyyychhh/306332/188 "2019-08-28T01:55:56Z")
Oh yea, it’s definitely a niche yoyo. Id like to hear feedback from owners before commenting more, since I don’t even know how it plays. My initial thoughts were just that the gap seems exceedingly narrow by today’s standards, not that I think it is an untunable POS. If what @crackout said above was true, and that the new 2WEI is a 4.0mm gap, im sure that it plays just fine with casual play. ---
**Author:** ![Ryanm7277](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/82dd89/32.png) [@Ryanm7277](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Ryanm7277)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2019, 1:56am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-rt-tryyyptyyychhh/306332/189 "2019-08-29T01:56:12Z")
I agree there bgrades are suppose to be cheap their bgrades ---
**Author:** ![Ryanm7277](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/82dd89/32.png) [@Ryanm7277](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Ryanm7277)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2019, 2:12am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-rt-tryyyptyyychhh/306332/190 "2019-08-29T02:12:22Z")
Also why don’t yoyo companies send their kick back to the producers and demand them to get the ano right? Doesn’t make any sense they probably make more money on bgrades then regular that’s why they sell them ---
**Author:** ![MarkD](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/markd/32/40845_2.png) [@MarkD](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MarkD)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2019, 2:28am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-rt-tryyyptyyychhh/306332/191 "2019-08-29T02:28:20Z")
> [@Ryanm7277](#): > > they probably make more money on bgrades this ain’t true ---
**Author:** ![Dino\_Trucks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dc4da7/32.png) [@Dino\_Trucks](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Dino_Trucks)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2019, 2:32am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-rt-tryyyptyyychhh/306332/192 "2019-08-29T02:32:01Z")
I thought art anodized the triptychs themselves. I might be wrong tho ---
**Author:** ![Durfee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/durfee/32/593280_2.png) [@Durfee](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Durfee)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2019, 3:03am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-rt-tryyyptyyychhh/306332/193 "2019-08-29T03:03:04Z")
In this case it probably is true though unless they are selling the b grades at just over cost. Aren’t there like 80 that aren’t a grades compared to 20 that are? Even if they make much less per yoyo they’re still selling 60 more of them. But in the case of YYF for example I’m sure you’re right. ---
**Author:** ![MarkD](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/markd/32/40845_2.png) [@MarkD](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MarkD)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2019, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-rt-tryyyptyyychhh/306332/194 "2019-08-29T20:41:31Z")
oh, did you mean net, rather than per unit? I’m not sure that’s a very useful way to look at it. The main reason to sell b-grades is because it’s a simple way to recoup costs that customers are familiar with. I think it is probably very difficult to hold an anodizer liable for vibe or minor imperfections in the finish. ---
**Author:** ![Durfee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/durfee/32/593280_2.png) [@Durfee](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Durfee)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2019, 8:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-rt-tryyyptyyychhh/306332/195 "2019-08-29T20:59:25Z")
> [@MarkD](#): > > oh, did you mean net, rather than per unit? I’m not sure that’s a very useful way to look at it. The main reason to sell b-grades is because it’s a simple way to recoup costs that customers are familiar with Yeah you’re definitely right I’m just being a little pedantic here. I was literally just focusing on this one specific situation and the net profit. Probably not the typical case and either way they definitely make less per unit on b grades. ---
**Author:** ![bobafret](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bobafret/32/260814_2.png) [@bobafret](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/bobafret)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2019, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-rt-tryyyptyyychhh/306332/196 "2019-08-29T21:21:18Z")
It was a $50 difference in unit price. I’m guessing anodizing each yoyo in bulk probably doesn’t cost much more than $50 per unit since I think individual ano jobs run around there. So imagine the ano job cost around $50 on each yoyo. Even if the anodizer discounted the entire cost of anodizing, by discounting the B-grade $50 they are probably just keeping everything in line with the reduction in cost of the ano due to the defect. And it’s also obvious some in this thread don’t understand the process - A-RT doesn’t machine or anodize these yoyos. Assembly, testing and in the case of the Triptych applying the enamel paint to the rim are all they are doing in production of this yoyo. Most yoyo companies aren’t machining or anodizing their own yoyos. They send them out to get machined somewhere and then once they get the machined parts back they send those out for anodizing. I think One Drop is the only exception with machining but they still shop out their anodizing as far as I know. They sell B-grades so they don’t just have to eat the cost of production. At least they can recoup some of their original planned revenue. Believe me, if these companies could have everything come out A-grade they would. It’s a more complicated process than you might think. Editing to clarify most companies don’t “send them out to get machined somewhere” they send a design to a machine shop who actually produces that design. ---
**Author:** ![skklexie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/skklexie/32/42925_2.png) [@skklexie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/skklexie)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2019, 4:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-rt-tryyyptyyychhh/306332/197 "2019-09-02T04:05:45Z")
YESSSSSSSS ![41%20PM](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/5/f/4/5f41d79436f4431ba977fd97cd9ec36683ce44be.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/johnnyj/32/94616_2.png) [@JohnnyJ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JohnnyJ)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2019, 4:45am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-rt-tryyyptyyychhh/306332/198 "2019-09-02T04:45:07Z")
Woahhhh yours came early. Mine is still supposedly 5 days away and keeps getting pushed back 😔 ---
**Author:** ![skklexie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/skklexie/32/42925_2.png) [@skklexie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/skklexie)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2019, 8:28am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-rt-tryyyptyyychhh/306332/199 "2019-09-02T08:28:34Z")
i didnt get a tracking number for this and i was assuming itll take 2 weeks to get here. was a pleasant surprise for sure! ---
**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2019, 8:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-rt-tryyyptyyychhh/306332/200 "2019-09-02T08:48:19Z")
> [@eternalmetal](#): > > Exclusivity/collectability/boutique batches aside, I agree that $150 for a monometal 6061 is definitely a bit high. Hahaha!!! $150 for an artsy 6061 monometal is madness!! 🤪🤪🤪 Good luck to all you guys who bought one. I hope it’s the best thing ever ---
**Author:** ![bobafret](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bobafret/32/260814_2.png) [@bobafret](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/bobafret)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2019, 9:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-rt-tryyyptyyychhh/306332/201 "2019-09-02T09:33:48Z")
> [@anon5341354](#): > > Good luck to all you guys who bought one. I hope it’s the best thing ever It’s definitely one of the most desired releases ever and the people who got one were psyched to get them at the price offered. Not sure why people are losing their minds over the price. High quality premium brand boutique throws draw that pricing. It’s the free market reflecting perceived quality and desirability. They could have easily sold for even higher $. ---
**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2019, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-rt-tryyyptyyychhh/306332/202 "2019-09-02T10:45:54Z")
Oh sure, people can pay whatever they want. They could charge $300 and people would probably buy it. Whatever. High quality? Are they? Alright. Not convinced it’s higher than anything else but alright. If people are so obsessed that they have to the latest A-RT release that they will pay that much then good for them. Really. I hope their average performing organic for $150 satisfies them… Of course it will… After all, they just paid a ton of cash for it. Actually, well done A-RT, they are really doing something right! I really mean that! ---
**Author:** ![Benmichael86](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/benmichael86/32/64422_2.png) [@Benmichael86](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Benmichael86)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2019, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-rt-tryyyptyyychhh/306332/203 "2019-09-02T13:04:08Z")
The B-grades were $100 which I think is a pretty good price. A-Rt truly knows how to design a good organic, and I’m willing to pay a premium for the design aspect alone. They definitely hit their stride and are well within their means to charge a higher than average price. It’s hard to tell what’s sarcasm and what’s not in your post. I’m a proud owner of a Harbinger and a Survivalist (my 4 year old actually loves playing with the Survivalist). I’ll be honest though, your aggressive tone and needlessly harsh comments have really soured me on your brand, which seemed to have garnered a pretty solid reputation. [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-rt-tryyyptyyychhh/306332.md?page=9) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-rt-tryyyptyyychhh/306332.md?page=11)