# A Ground Breaking Yoyo Design **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [April 24, 2023, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-ground-breaking-yoyo-design/374232 "2023-04-24T11:52:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![malachigutwein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e95f7d/32.png) [@malachigutwein](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/malachigutwein)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-ground-breaking-yoyo-design/374232/1 "2023-04-24T11:52:41Z")
So I’ve been working on designing and 3d printing more unique novelty throws and stumbled across this… A spiked hubstack that protrudes outside of the cup of the yoyo. Sounds simple? A yoyo like this can play like a hubstack yoyo, spin on your finger, spin on your hand, spin on a table, and you can grab one of the spikes and twist it around (even upside down)! So what I’m wondering is this - why has this never been explored before? Or has it? The closest thing I could find to this is the Magic Yoyo lm1 but I may have missed something. (the yoyo is spinning in all of these photos) ![20230424_170527](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/1/5/e/15e79128819c38df951db4f4e58ee8e40dc578b9.jpeg) ![20230424_170558(0)](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/e/7/8/e784a515fc97d87c35e0ee588f973bc9b4dcd74d.jpeg) ![20230424_170646](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/f/8/d/f8d5b8083d19266115054681b7a325ba09682459.jpeg) ![20230424_171119](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/8/b/c/8bcffa423aa7848ac175585b879a8a5ba0ee78a4.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![OhDavidBowie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/ohdavidbowie/32/149966_2.png) [@OhDavidBowie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/OhDavidBowie)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-ground-breaking-yoyo-design/374232/2 "2023-04-24T12:00:27Z")
Yoyofactory made spikes for hubstacks way back on the G5 I believe. ---
**Author:** ![malachigutwein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e95f7d/32.png) [@malachigutwein](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/malachigutwein)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-ground-breaking-yoyo-design/374232/3 "2023-04-24T12:02:50Z")
Do you know why it didn’t gain much ground? I’ve played a little bit with this and it’s so fun. ---
**Author:** ![OhDavidBowie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/ohdavidbowie/32/149966_2.png) [@OhDavidBowie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/OhDavidBowie)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-ground-breaking-yoyo-design/374232/4 "2023-04-24T12:03:55Z")
I don’t know an exact reason. It’s fun but really just a novelty ---
**Author:** ![malachigutwein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e95f7d/32.png) [@malachigutwein](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/malachigutwein)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-ground-breaking-yoyo-design/374232/5 "2023-04-24T12:07:17Z")
I see. I’ll have to test if there are actually any cool tricks with the string involved that can be done with it. I believe it could be mass-produced though if it offered enough. ---
**Author:** ![jeffreypang911](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jeffreypang911/32/192496_2.png) [@jeffreypang911](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jeffreypang911)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-ground-breaking-yoyo-design/374232/6 "2023-04-24T12:16:48Z")
It has been done before, released in 2002 by Difeyo the “Spiked-Fly” based on the “Dif-Fly”. One of the yoyos I regret selling back in the day. It was a very fun yoyo, as you mentioned can catch string and stuff. > **[Dif-e-Yo Spike-Fly](https://yoyo.fandom.com/wiki/Dif-e-Yo_Spike-Fly)** > > The Spike-Fly was a custom, made-to-order yo-yo produced by Dif-e-Yo. It is a variation of the Dif-Fly with an extended axle section, in order to accommodate YoYoJam spin top bearing tips on the sides. The bearing tips can be pressed in or... ---
**Author:** ![Albertino](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/albertino/32/302953_2.png) [@Albertino](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Albertino)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-ground-breaking-yoyo-design/374232/7 "2023-04-24T13:26:35Z")
This seems very interesting will be cool to have the chance to catch the string and do string tricks like a sort of spin top, so curious to see how you evolve it ---
**Author:** ![malachigutwein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e95f7d/32.png) [@malachigutwein](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/malachigutwein)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-ground-breaking-yoyo-design/374232/8 "2023-04-24T13:34:10Z")
Indeed! One of the benefits of 3d printing is that I can make prototypes quickly without really any cost. I doubt that I’ll ever mass produce this though, but it would be cool for some company to do so, as it’s not really in circulation now. ---
**Author:** ![safetypin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/safetypin/32/128453_2.png) [@safetypin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/safetypin)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-ground-breaking-yoyo-design/374232/9 "2023-04-24T13:44:52Z")
Isn’t this pretty similar to the MK1 Unicorn? DocPop and One Drop tried to create a side effect like this, but I haven’t heard anything about it in almost a year, so I imagine it didn’t work out for one reason or another. ---
**Author:** ![malachigutwein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e95f7d/32.png) [@malachigutwein](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/malachigutwein)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-ground-breaking-yoyo-design/374232/10 "2023-04-24T13:50:52Z")
Not really. The Mk1 Unicorn from what I know is specifically designed to optimize hand grinds. This is similar in that it can do hand grinds (though not as well) but it is made up of hubstacks which allows for more widespread types of play (like you can grab onto the stacks and set it on a table to spin). ---
**Author:** ![ChrisFrancz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/chrisfrancz/32/48992_2.png) [@ChrisFrancz](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ChrisFrancz)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-ground-breaking-yoyo-design/374232/11 "2023-04-24T14:11:52Z")
That looks exactly like the weapon people believe yoyos once used to be. ---
**Author:** ![SpinJoel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@SpinJoel](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SpinJoel)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-ground-breaking-yoyo-design/374232/12 "2023-04-24T19:49:31Z")
Even earlier than that, YYJ and Doc and some other folks built the P213 > **[Throwback Thursday – Project 213](https://yoyonews.com/2013/04/25/throwback-thursday-project-213/)** > > One of my favorite things about yoyo history is all the weird stuff that falls out when you shake the family tree. And of all the ill-advised yoyo designs from years past, by far the most compellin… This link is a throwback to a throwback. I remember Doc showing this off in 2001 but I could be off by a year ---
**Author:** ![MarkD](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/markd/32/40845_2.png) [@MarkD](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MarkD)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-ground-breaking-yoyo-design/374232/13 "2023-04-24T20:07:04Z")
More stuff like this, please!! They’re very fun & silly ---
**Author:** ![YotaroKuyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yotarokuyo/32/123850_2.png) [@YotaroKuyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YotaroKuyo)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-ground-breaking-yoyo-design/374232/14 "2023-04-24T20:43:46Z")
Yeah I was gonna say Dif-e-yo spike fly as well thats the first throw I saw with something like that. Also One Drop had stunt peg side effects at one point as well I believe. ---
**Author:** ![kevinm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kevinm/32/697_2.png) [@kevinm](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kevinm)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-ground-breaking-yoyo-design/374232/15 "2023-04-24T20:48:24Z")
This is a ground breaking yo-yo design. Seriously, it’s 256 lbs. ![IMG_0316](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/0/8/4/084f92c422f637ad99fe5067dff24b1702e7c9fb.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![TheSliverKing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/thesliverking/32/297284_2.png) [@TheSliverKing](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheSliverKing)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 10:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-ground-breaking-yoyo-design/374232/16 "2023-04-24T22:41:49Z")
I have a Difeo Spike Fly and if you do a brent stole itll do a 180⁰ turn which is kinda fun, bet this does the same 😅 ---
**Author:** ![Pun1sh3R](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pun1sh3r/32/193125_2.png) [@Pun1sh3R](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Pun1sh3R)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2023, 2:17am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-ground-breaking-yoyo-design/374232/17 "2023-04-25T02:17:52Z")
Here is a Janus with spikes that I have been playing with. ![20230302_075249](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/a/a/c/aac85f851ed86305ba8bac499955c4b3c0895875.jpeg) Spikes are proud of the halves. May need to look at other ways to play. Have fun. ---
**Author:** ![malachigutwein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e95f7d/32.png) [@malachigutwein](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/malachigutwein)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2023, 2:32am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-ground-breaking-yoyo-design/374232/18 "2023-04-25T02:32:30Z")
Yea! since it has spikes you could do a matador pull start and go into a finger spin or hand grind or even just throw it horizontally and land it on something!