# A bst psa. :) **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [November 28, 2018, 1:41am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-bst-psa/295613 "2018-11-28T01:41:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![photogeek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/photogeek/32/41072_2.png) [@photogeek](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/photogeek)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-bst-psa/295613/21 "2018-11-28T18:25:24Z")
> [@vegabomb](#): > > This isn’t a rule. The one bump per day is the rule. This is merely a suggestion for courtesy to the othe people using the BST. I mean, okay. But that’s just arguing a technicality. Let’s pretend I said: > I’m active on a couple different forums for various hobbies I have and most have similar “don’t be a jerk about bumping” rules without any “no questions on the thread” suggestions. My point remains the same. In my experience, I have not seen conversation on B/S/T threads be a problem on other forums with rules on how often you can bump. ---
**Author:** ![vegabomb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/vegabomb/32/199_2.png) [@vegabomb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/vegabomb)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 6:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-bst-psa/295613/22 "2018-11-28T18:38:10Z")
> [@photogeek](#): > > have not seen conversation on B/S/T threads be a problem on other forums with rules on how often you can bump. I guess it depends on what is perceived as a “problem”. Conversation in the threads _does_ defeat the bump rule… to some degree. Wether or not that’s a problem is I suppose debatable. ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 10:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-bst-psa/295613/23 "2018-11-28T22:59:47Z")
> [@vegabomb](#): > > Little dramatic ya think? 🤣 No, actually, I don’t… > [@FT: Entire Collection](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ft-entire-collection/294954/26): > > Bump Hey guys if you have any questions or offers please pm me as I don’t wanna break any rules by talking on this post. Also: the Grail is green and the quail is red ok_hand > [@vegabomb](#): > > Conversation in the threads _does_ defeat the bump rule… to some degree. Wether or not that’s a problem is I suppose debatable. I fully support intervening in those specific cases versus an over-broad general rule that a) isn’t necessary based on today’s forum and b) has damaging follow-on effects to relevant & meaningful conversations. I am sure things were different in 2008 and 2003, but here in 2018… I just can’t see that rule making sense, and it’s kinda harmful to boot. > [@AaronW](#): > > I’ve referenced other forums that I frequent and they’ve all gone to a format that when you comment in a BST thread that post is not bumped. You have to use the “Up Thread” button to actually bump the thread, and then it doesn’t allow another bump for 24 hours. That allows legitimate discussion to take place, sometimes it is necessary in the thread I feel. Another interesting idea, but honestly more of a “nice to have” than a requirement from my perspective. ---
**Author:** ![AaronW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/aaronw/32/49251_2.png) [@AaronW](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AaronW)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 11:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-bst-psa/295613/24 "2018-11-28T23:33:42Z")
> [@codinghorror](#): > > Another interesting idea, but honestly more of a “nice to have” than a requirement from my perspective. Based on what we’re discussing here it possibly should be a requirement. I mean a lot of other forum software has that ability already, so there are others having this same issue and they’ve taken the steps to address it. ---
**Author:** ![vegabomb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/vegabomb/32/199_2.png) [@vegabomb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/vegabomb)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 11:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-bst-psa/295613/25 "2018-11-28T23:58:27Z")
> [@codinghorror](#): > > I just can’t see that rule making sense… So your opinion is the one bump per day rule doesn’t make sense? Just want to make sure I understand. > [@codinghorror](#): > > I am sure things were different in 2008 and 2003 Who mentioned 2003? Do you think hyperbole makes a stronger argument? ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2018, 12:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-bst-psa/295613/26 "2018-11-29T00:00:32Z")
> [@vegabomb](#): > > Do you think hyperbole makes a stronger argument? I do, actually! Particularly since some decisions seem mired in the past, and not reflective of current conditions on the ground on a few different levels :wink: > [@vegabomb](#): > > So your opinion is the one bump per day rule doesn’t make sense? I do not feel that infrequent bursts of _relevant_ conversation in a BST topic are materially different from a once-a-day bump. It’s certainly far more _interesting_ and _useful_ to me as a frequent participant in BST topics, though – and it definitely contributes to the feeling of this place being alive versus… [uh, dead](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/forums-vs-social-media-reddit/84707/20). ---
**Author:** ![vegabomb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/vegabomb/32/199_2.png) [@vegabomb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/vegabomb)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2018, 12:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-bst-psa/295613/27 "2018-11-29T00:02:57Z")
Well the only “rule” spoken of here is the bump rule. And honestly I’m done arguing about it. Someone that condones truth stretching or hyperbole isn’t a fun argument. ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2018, 12:04am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-bst-psa/295613/28 "2018-11-29T00:04:58Z")
You’ve told me a million times to stop exaggerating! :wink: I dunno, this is one I feel strongly about because it legit would have a chilling effect, per the real example I already cited. (and you ignored) To be clear I am totally for the mods intervening when there is _irrelevant_ extended conversation in a BST topic… on an as-needed basis. ---
**Author:** ![Applepooh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/applepooh/32/40751_2.png) [@Applepooh](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Applepooh)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2018, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-bst-psa/295613/29 "2018-11-29T12:58:13Z")
We could just follow the rules. If the listing is correctly posted (damage pictured, prices listed, etc etc) there shouldn’t be much need to PM or ask questions, other than to setup the deal. The 1 Bump a day is nice. It’s a simple rule. Easy to follow. ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2018, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-bst-psa/295613/30 "2018-11-29T22:10:22Z")
> [@Applepooh](#): > > We could just follow the rules. This isn’t a rule, it is a “PSA”. Which I strongly disagree with for reasons previously stated above at great length. I also agree with @photogeek when he says > [@photogeek](#): > > I will say that having some amount of communication happening between buyers and sellers does give a B/S/T forum a sense of legitimacy and less of a “craigslist” feel. I think that can be important. Dead forums where people just post things for sale aren’t particularly trustworthy from an outsider’s perspective. I believe this is an actively harmful “PSA” as stated. If it was reformulated to > please avoid extended conversations in BST topics Then I could agree with it. ---
**Author:** ![shatterFX](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shatterfx/32/66476_2.png) [@shatterFX](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/shatterFX)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2018, 10:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-bst-psa/295613/31 "2018-11-29T22:50:56Z")
Not saying this is a good or bad idea, however, the question of “do we really want to discourage posting on the forum?” comes to mind. ---
**Author:** ![vegabomb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/vegabomb/32/199_2.png) [@vegabomb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/vegabomb)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2018, 11:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-bst-psa/295613/32 "2018-11-29T23:39:45Z")
> [@shatterFX](#): > > Not saying this is a good or bad idea, however, the question of “do we really want to discourage posting on the forum?” comes to mind. There are plenty of places on this forum to post as often as you like. To get in all the discussions you like. The BST board just isn’t one of them. It serves a different purpose than the other boards on the forum. ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2018, 11:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-bst-psa/295613/33 "2018-11-29T23:44:02Z")
Perhaps, but questions and clarifications about the actual thing for sale/trade are helpful to everyone reading the topic – and indicate this place is alive, versus… not alive. I’m with you on discouraging random conversations in b/s/t topics. ---
**Author:** ![Applepooh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/applepooh/32/40751_2.png) [@Applepooh](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Applepooh)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2018, 12:19am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-bst-psa/295613/34 "2018-11-30T00:19:29Z")
> [@codinghorror](#): > > This isn’t a rule, it is a “PSA”. Rule… I think 6 states the 1 Max Bump dealeo. Also the BST rules lay out a good format that, when followed, shouldn’t really call for any additional public dialog on the BST post. Examples, proper price ( which should INCLUDE shipping and fees in the total), proper pictures (showing any damage), proper condition listed. Etc etc. This PSA is good, everyone should go back and read the BST rules. 💁🏼‍♂️ $.02 ---
**Author:** ![GizzmoTheGreat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gizzmothegreat/32/41183_2.png) [@GizzmoTheGreat](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GizzmoTheGreat)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2018, 2:21am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-bst-psa/295613/35 "2018-11-30T02:21:24Z")
Seems to me the solution has already been suggested. It wouldn’t be a difficult thing to implement a bump button for the OP in the BST threads that resets once every 24 hours, and then turn off the bump function for all other additions to the thread. I’ve seen it done on many other forums. It solves both problems. You get the conversation on the topic (which can also be moderated for relevancy) and you get the one bump per 24 hour rule. It’s pretty simple. ---
**Author:** ![vegabomb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/vegabomb/32/199_2.png) [@vegabomb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/vegabomb)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2018, 2:47am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-bst-psa/295613/36 "2018-11-30T02:47:38Z")
> [@GizzmoTheGreat](#): > > It wouldn’t be a difficult thing to implement a bump button for the OP in the BST threads that resets once every 24 hours @codinghorror Is this something that could be done if we wanted it? ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2018, 2:52am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-bst-psa/295613/37 "2018-11-30T02:52:53Z")
I still prefer an actual _post_, but in theory, yes… a “bump limiter” if you will. ---
**Author:** ![smileypants707](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/smileypants707/32/19045_2.png) [@smileypants707](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/smileypants707)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2018, 3:13am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-bst-psa/295613/38 "2018-11-30T03:13:38Z")
I’ll second this request. That way, people can have all the public discussion they want, and it still keeps the rule of one bump per day. Win win [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-bst-psa/295613.md?page=1)