# A bit upset about BAC 1A Prelim rules :( **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Contests, Clubs, and Events\ **Created:** [April 7, 2013, 5:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-bit-upset-about-bac-1a-prelim-rules/51918 "2013-04-07T05:02:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![YoYoJordan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyojordan/32/123867_2.png) [@YoYoJordan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYoJordan)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2013, 5:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-bit-upset-about-bac-1a-prelim-rules/51918/1 "2013-04-07T05:02:40Z")
Really? We have 15 songs to choose from? We can’t use our own, guys -.- Registration fee is more expensive now at $35. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Eli](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Mr\_Eli](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mr_Eli)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2013, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-bit-upset-about-bac-1a-prelim-rules/51918/2 "2013-04-07T17:53:33Z")
So potentially someone will be using the same song as another correct ? ---
**Author:** ![Nathan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nathan/32/191605_2.png) [@Nathan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Nathan)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2013, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-bit-upset-about-bac-1a-prelim-rules/51918/3 "2013-04-07T18:44:36Z")
It’s a certainty that people will be using the same prelim music. ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 6:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-bit-upset-about-bac-1a-prelim-rules/51918/4 "2013-04-15T06:37:06Z")
Last year there were over 80 1A prelims at BAC. There were over 120 prelims at CalStates in 2012. CalStates had fewer 1A prelims in 2013. I suspect that BAC will hold the same numbers though. I actually expect the number to exceed 90. I would expect each song to be used 6 times. With only 15 to choose from, there’s going to not only be repeats, but back to back repeats from time to time as well. ---
**Author:** ![yuki\_onitsura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yuki_onitsura/32/1162_2.png) [@yuki\_onitsura](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yuki_onitsura)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-bit-upset-about-bac-1a-prelim-rules/51918/5 "2013-04-15T07:42:20Z")
Why the limited song choice? Is it an organisers thing or is it more of a sound and tech thing? Yuki ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-bit-upset-about-bac-1a-prelim-rules/51918/6 "2013-04-15T08:00:19Z")
> [@yuki\_onitsura](#): > > Why the limited song choice? Is it an organisers thing or is it more of a sound and tech thing? > > Yuki I am the sound company for BAC. I had zero involvement in this announcement and decision. I was in Vietnam when this information was release and nobody asked for my opinion. I think this is the organizers ensuring things move smoothly and quickly during prelims. A slowdown issue at CalStates(not really) was the loading of the song for each contestant. At the Main Stage, my laptop’s drive was acting a bit strange, and so I had some failures. The CD deck also couldn’t handle data discs that people made incorrectly(they were instructed to make audio CD’s). While I don’t feel this is the best method, I feel that if given proper time to focus before the event(that’s an issue at my place), I can prepare all the prelims, 1A finals(all entrants, can be trimmed easily on-site), 2A, 3A, 4A and 5A so things can be accessed quickly and easily come event time. I will be in talks with the event organizers ahead of time to see how much pre-production work I will be able to get taken care of before the event. There is no room for failure! ---
**Author:** ![yuki\_onitsura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yuki_onitsura/32/1162_2.png) [@yuki\_onitsura](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yuki_onitsura)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 9:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-bit-upset-about-bac-1a-prelim-rules/51918/7 "2013-04-15T09:07:36Z")
> [@Studio42](#): > > I think this is the organizers ensuring things move smoothly and quickly during prelims. Fair enough I suppose. Though I do think that having the same 15 tracks playing over and over again might not be the best as far as promoting yoyos to the wider community, especially at an event like BAC where there’s likely to be some non-throwers in the audience. Yuki ---
**Author:** ![Yossarian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yossarian/32/1006_2.png) [@Yossarian](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yossarian)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 9:30am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-bit-upset-about-bac-1a-prelim-rules/51918/8 "2013-04-15T09:30:31Z")
The plan seems to be to have the prelims take place offstage [during the 2A and 3A finals](http://bayareaclassic.com/schedule/), so I don’t think repeating songs for the audience is a concern. If Studio42 is the only sound guy and he is doing sound for the onstage finals at that time, it sounds like that might also mean they are on their own with the sound for prelims? They talked about why they had to streamline the prelims on their Facebook page: > [@](#): > > Why the changes this year? Our venue has limited us to 6 hours of live music time and we wanted to make sure to do it the fastest most efficient way possible yet still give you a great day and weekend of yoyoing. The schedule on their website doesn’t leave room for 1A prelims plus all the finals to happen onstage within 6 hours. ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2013, 10:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-bit-upset-about-bac-1a-prelim-rules/51918/9 "2013-04-27T22:15:18Z")
At least the song choices could have been better! It’s enough that we only get 15 songs to choose from, but now there’s no good songs to freestyle to. Only one I can think of having a routine for is Bangarang(which is probably gonna be most played) but Chris is doing a goat version edit. ---
**Author:** ![Lordchootapa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lordchootapa](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Lordchootapa)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2013, 10:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-bit-upset-about-bac-1a-prelim-rules/51918/10 "2013-04-27T22:36:41Z")
What are some of the song choices? ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2013, 8:04am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-bit-upset-about-bac-1a-prelim-rules/51918/11 "2013-04-28T08:04:35Z")
> [@iYoyo58](#): > > At least the song choices could have been better! It’s enough that we only get 15 songs to choose from, but now there’s no good songs to freestyle to. Only one I can think of having a routine for is Bangarang(which is probably gonna be most played) but Chris is doing a goat version edit. I’ll see if I have time to do the Bangarang Goat Edit. My wife just dumped a big project on me. I’m not making any promises. > [@Lordchootapa](#): > > What are some of the song choices? All your answers are right here: [http://bayareaclassic.com/1a-prelims-music-and-rules/](http://bayareaclassic.com/1a-prelims-music-and-rules/) DOWNLOAD the songs you want to try to use. They are pre-edited and will not be touched by my sound team. What you get is what will be used with no alterations. (except the goat mix if I can get the time to make it) ---
**Author:** ![Lordchootapa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lordchootapa](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Lordchootapa)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2013, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-bit-upset-about-bac-1a-prelim-rules/51918/12 "2013-04-28T20:16:41Z")
All your answers are right here: [http://bayareaclassic.com/1a-prelims-music-and-rules/](http://bayareaclassic.com/1a-prelims-music-and-rules/) DOWNLOAD the songs you want to try to use. They are pre-edited and will not be touched by my sound team. What you get is what will be used with no alterations. (except the goat mix if I can get the time to make it) [/quote] Thanks! Funny, I’ve actually come up with a little routine to “Locked Out Of Heaven” but I probably won’t be at BAC… When is it? ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2013, 3:59am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-bit-upset-about-bac-1a-prelim-rules/51918/13 "2013-04-30T03:59:26Z")
> [@Studio42](#): > > > [@iYoyo58](#): > > > > At least the song choices could have been better! It’s enough that we only get 15 songs to choose from, but now there’s no good songs to freestyle to. Only one I can think of having a routine for is Bangarang(which is probably gonna be most played) but Chris is doing a goat version edit. > > I’ll see if I have time to do the Bangarang Goat Edit. My wife just dumped a big project on me. I’m not making any promises. > > > [@Lordchootapa](#): > > > > What are some of the song choices? > > All your answers are right here: > > [http://bayareaclassic.com/1a-prelims-music-and-rules/](http://bayareaclassic.com/1a-prelims-music-and-rules/) > > DOWNLOAD the songs you want to try to use. They are pre-edited and will not be touched by my sound team. What you get is what will be used with no alterations. > (except the goat mix if I can get the time to make it) Please don’t do the goat edit! That song is my only hope!!! ---
**Author:** ![yuki\_onitsura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yuki_onitsura/32/1162_2.png) [@yuki\_onitsura](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yuki_onitsura)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2013, 4:03am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-bit-upset-about-bac-1a-prelim-rules/51918/14 "2013-04-30T04:03:28Z")
Shame the prelims are done offstage. Non-stop goat mix freestyles would have been awesome. Yuki ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2013, 7:54am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-bit-upset-about-bac-1a-prelim-rules/51918/15 "2013-04-30T07:54:51Z")
> [@iYoyo58](#): > > Please don’t do the goat edit! That song is my only hope!!! Goatarang is done. Sail-Goat is also done. However, the ORIGINALS will NOT be touched. There will be a separate bank of goat-ified remixes available IF the contest allows it. I will see if I can goat-ify other songs later. Just those two songs stood out! > [@yuki\_onitsura](#): > > Shame the prelims are done offstage. Non-stop goat mix freestyles would have been awesome. > > Yuki The prelims have to be done off-stage due to the time constraints for the contest. We have to “divide and conquer”. While I agree that it would be great to bring them back to the main stage, I feel this is the best method to keep things within the time window for the contest. I just hope that at least one vendor is going to run a camera for prelims. There’s a few players who regardless if they qualify to finals or not, I’d like to see what they do. ---
**Author:** ![Gambit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gambit/32/1358_2.png) [@Gambit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Gambit)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2013, 2:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-bit-upset-about-bac-1a-prelim-rules/51918/16 "2013-04-30T14:15:39Z")
Motion City Soundtrack? Old school! I couldn’t do a freestyle to a song that awesome though, I’d end up spending more time singing than throwing. Give me a reaaasssoooonnnn! To end this disscusssiiiiooooonnnnnn! _bops head_ ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 12:32am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-bit-upset-about-bac-1a-prelim-rules/51918/17 "2013-05-02T00:32:58Z")
> [@Gambit](#): > > Motion City Soundtrack? Old school! I couldn’t do a freestyle to a song that awesome though, I’d end up spending more time singing than throwing. > > Give me a reaaasssoooonnnn! To end this disscusssiiiiooooonnnnnn! _bops head_ I did a goat-ified version if that helps. Doing the last 3 songs tonight, gonna figure out where to put the songs. ---
**Author:** ![ObiJackson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/b2d939/32.png) [@ObiJackson](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ObiJackson)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2013, 2:49am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-bit-upset-about-bac-1a-prelim-rules/51918/18 "2013-05-03T02:49:13Z")
> [@yuki\_onitsura](#): > > Shame the prelims are done offstage. Non-stop goat mix freestyles would have been awesome. > > Yuki So am a new contest goer and a little confuse… Are we supposed to come up 2 separate times? One for prelims and the next weekend if we make finals? That is the way it seemed on their website. ---
**Author:** ![Nathan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nathan/32/191605_2.png) [@Nathan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Nathan)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2013, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-bit-upset-about-bac-1a-prelim-rules/51918/19 "2013-05-03T17:08:10Z")
The entire contest is on May 25. The website doesn’t have any mention of anything the next weekend so I’m not quite sure what’s confusing you. ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2013, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-bit-upset-about-bac-1a-prelim-rules/51918/20 "2013-05-03T17:23:00Z")
> [@ObiJackson](#): > > > [@yuki\_onitsura](#): > > > > Shame the prelims are done offstage. Non-stop goat mix freestyles would have been awesome. > > > > Yuki > > So am a new contest goer and a little confuse… > Are we supposed to come up 2 separate times? > One for prelims and the next weekend if we make finals? That is the way it seemed on their website. Here’s how 1A works: You will need to provide a 2 minute track for your Finals freestyle, assuming that you make it. All entrants should just assume they could make it into the 1A finals. For 1A prelims, which ALL 1A players will need to go through(minus seeded players), there are 15 tracks of pre-selected audio. Choose the track you want and MEMORIZE the number, because we are working off NUMBERS, not track names. We will have track names though. These provided tracks are pre-edited, so you know exactly what you’re getting. For all other divisions (2A,3A,4A,5A), just supply a playback track. It will be cut off at 2 minutes of not pre-edited. In the past, 1A participants had to provide both their prelim 1-minute track(or would be cut at 1 minute) for preliminaries AND their 2-minute track(or it would be cut at 2 minutes) for finals. Please, go to the web site and read the rules. [http://bayareaclassic.com/] [url]http://bayareaclassic.com/](https://http)[/url] > [@Nathan](#): > > The entire contest is on May 25. The website doesn’t have any mention of anything the next weekend so I’m not quite sure what’s confusing you. I’m not sure why so many people are so confused about things. It’s been spelled out very clearly. [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/a-bit-upset-about-bac-1a-prelim-rules/51918.md?page=2)