# 5A butterfly help

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/5a-butterfly-help/29341>\
**Category:** Yo-Yo Tricks\
**Created:** [August 24, 2011, 10:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/5a-butterfly-help/29341 "2011-08-24T22:31:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![hobo-yoyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e95f7d/32.png) [@hobo-yoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hobo-yoyo)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 10:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/5a-butterfly-help/29341/1 "2011-08-24T22:31:33Z")

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hi guys,  
I’m trying to get into 5A and im having a little trouble with butterfly. Im practicing with a dead yoyo by swinging the yoyo frist, then throwing the counterweight. I usually get about 3-4 perfect revolutions but then my dice collides with the yoyo and ruines everything. Does anyone know how to fix this? I’m trying to throw the dice at a slight angle but it still ends up colliding. any help?

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**Author:** ![Saskabilly\_Psychosis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/saskabilly_psychosis/32/560_2.png) [@Saskabilly\_Psychosis](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Saskabilly_Psychosis)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 5:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/5a-butterfly-help/29341/2 "2011-08-25T05:18:11Z")

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It’s all in the thumb. You make a weird back and forth motion with the thumb. It also helps to get the up down motion really consistent

Practice is all it takes. Also try with a whole bunch of different counterweights. I use different counterweights for different tricks

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**Author:** ![kermalkersh888](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kermalkersh888/32/788_2.png) [@kermalkersh888](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kermalkersh888)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 3:20am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/5a-butterfly-help/29341/3 "2011-08-27T03:20:42Z")

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normally what i will do is just like the astrojax thriller. What i mean by this is taking the dice and putting it just a littler shorter than the yoyo. This should help with the colliding. But just practice eventually you will find what works best 🙂

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**Author:** ![hadoq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hadoq/32/688_2.png) [@hadoq](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hadoq)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 9:27am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/5a-butterfly-help/29341/4 "2011-08-27T09:27:34Z")

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this is the kind of 5A tricks that I found specially hard to get for some reason

keep your string tense at all time and then it’s basically nothing but a matter of rythm