# 4a yoyos? **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Reviews\ **Created:** [October 28, 2009, 11:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-yoyos/7834 "2009-10-28T23:11:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Batryn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/batryn/32/78_2.png) [@Batryn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Batryn)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 11:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-yoyos/7834/1 "2009-10-28T23:11:50Z")
Okay, I’m going to attempt 4a, it looks fun, but I don’t know what yoyo to get. Do you have any suggestions? I have no idea about preference btw, because it is my first time… ---
**Author:** ![aznenemyxp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/aznenemyxp/32/330_2.png) [@aznenemyxp](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/aznenemyxp)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 12:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-yoyos/7834/2 "2009-10-29T00:01:06Z")
haybasu or or any yoyo really i started with a freehand 1 so theres is no real need to buy a new one just use a beater ---
**Author:** ![mongoriller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b3f665/32.png) [@mongoriller](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mongoriller)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 12:13am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-yoyos/7834/3 "2009-10-29T00:13:21Z")
I recommend getting a Zeekio Bird. It’s my favorite 4a yo-yo ever, and it’s just an overall great beginners 4a player. It’s got a small gap for fairly easy binds, but it doesn’t snag that much. It’s just an amazing yo-yo. Here’s a link to my review: > **[The Bird is the Word! Zeekio Bird Review!](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/forums/index.php/topic,8293.0.html)** > > For the past month or so, I have been testing Zeekio’s very first yo-yo, The Zeekio Bird. The online listing can be found here: http://www.■■■■■■■.com/servlet/the-5897/Zeekio-Yo-dsh-Yo-cln---The/Detail First of all, it’s an offstring yo-yo. Let’s... ---
**Author:** ![Apetrunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/apetrunk/32/148_2.png) [@Apetrunk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apetrunk)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 2:39am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-yoyos/7834/4 "2009-10-29T02:39:43Z")
I would suggest just using a yoyo you have for 1a already. When you go to get a “real” 4a yoyo, you’ll be that much better. If you don’t want to go that route, give a search and you’ll find plenty of topics to fit your question. ---
**Author:** ![helioNXG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/f04885/32.png) [@helioNXG](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/helioNXG)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 4:11am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-yoyos/7834/5 "2009-10-29T04:11:33Z")
use yoyos ;D ---
**Author:** ![Batryn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/batryn/32/78_2.png) [@Batryn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Batryn)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2009, 5:30am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-yoyos/7834/6 "2009-10-31T05:30:14Z")
Big Yo? Will it get dented though? Or scratched? ---
**Author:** ![polloyoyo12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/dec6dc/32.png) [@polloyoyo12](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/polloyoyo12)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2009, 5:32am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-yoyos/7834/7 "2009-10-31T05:32:23Z")
> [@Batryn](#): > > Big Yo? Will it get dented though? Or scratched? it wont dent but it might scratch ---
**Author:** ![helioNXG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/f04885/32.png) [@helioNXG](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/helioNXG)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2009, 6:27am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-yoyos/7834/8 "2009-10-31T06:27:27Z")
griffin wing or aquarius IMO you can buy some aquas at [www.DONTPOSTOTHERSTORES.COM](http://DONTPOSTOTHERSTORES.COM) ---
**Author:** ![Batryn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/batryn/32/78_2.png) [@Batryn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Batryn)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2009, 9:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-yoyos/7834/9 "2009-10-31T21:27:08Z")
Does anything bad happen if I drop a yoyo without the rubber? Will it like self destruct? ---
**Author:** ![EvanB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/90ced4/32.png) [@EvanB](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/EvanB)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2009, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-yoyos/7834/10 "2009-10-31T22:00:15Z")
> [@Batryn](#): > > Does anything bad happen if I drop a yoyo without the rubber? Will it like self destruct? Ding. My list: Aquarius Hayabusa Bigyo Zan Navi Offstring Griffen Wing Zeeko Bird Flying Panda Dark Magic (Or any 1A yoyo basically) Only a few. ---
**Author:** ![j\_lowell9](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/j_lowell9/32/358_2.png) [@j\_lowell9](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/j_lowell9)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-yoyos/7834/11 "2009-11-09T20:43:51Z")
i have used a hyabusa sl since i started its great its hit the concrete tons of times its still perfect but the rings on the outside get dirty ---
**Author:** ![Batryn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/batryn/32/78_2.png) [@Batryn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Batryn)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2009, 11:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-yoyos/7834/12 "2009-11-29T23:25:33Z")
Sorry for the necro, but I am still undecided. 😛 I’m thinking about a Big-Yo, Zeekio Bird, or something else entirely. Questions about each: Big Yo- Will it break if it hits the ground hard? Like does the lack of rubber rims give a an advantage in suicidal attempts? (As in self destruct.) Zeekio Bird- Does the lack of response and close walls make it spin slower or affect spin? Other- Is there a better choice… ---
**Author:** ![mattsk8nike](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mattsk8nike/32/213_2.png) [@mattsk8nike](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mattsk8nike)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2009, 11:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-yoyos/7834/13 "2009-11-29T23:30:27Z")
Big yo’s are smooth after a couple drops. You should see my Bigyo, Really scratched up yet, still smooth. When you drop it, it bounces, so it wont run away like an aqua. ---
**Author:** ![Ewski](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Ewski](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Ewski)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2009, 11:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-yoyos/7834/14 "2009-11-29T23:31:37Z")
I have a Bigyo and it has taken tons of beatings and the only marks on it are just scuffs and scratches. It is probably one of the most durable offstring yo-yos. ---
**Author:** ![Batryn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/batryn/32/78_2.png) [@Batryn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Batryn)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 2:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-yoyos/7834/15 "2009-11-30T02:29:31Z")
So if I throw a big yo up high, say like 2 stories, and miss on concrete… it survives? What about Zeekio Bird? Any problems with the gap? ---
**Author:** ![Ewski](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Ewski](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Ewski)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 3:47am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-yoyos/7834/16 "2009-11-30T03:47:43Z")
Never tried a Zeekio Bird, but yes, I am almost positive the bigyo will survive that fall. ---
**Author:** ![j\_lowell9](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/j_lowell9/32/358_2.png) [@j\_lowell9](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/j_lowell9)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 8:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-yoyos/7834/17 "2009-11-30T20:59:23Z")
just get freehand 2 from toys r us if u dont want to spend alot of money its pretty good and you wont care if you hits the ground alot ---
**Author:** ![Batryn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/batryn/32/78_2.png) [@Batryn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Batryn)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 12:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-yoyos/7834/18 "2009-12-01T00:48:05Z")
Okay… what does a tight gap do to an offstring yoyo? And would you recommend Big Yo or Aquarius. (Yes, I know they’re gone.) ---
**Author:** ![Apetrunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/apetrunk/32/148_2.png) [@Apetrunk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apetrunk)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 3:11am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-yoyos/7834/19 "2009-12-01T03:11:24Z")
Tight gaps make it easier to bind. Those 2 yoyos are great. ---
**Author:** ![JUMP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jump/32/274_2.png) [@JUMP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JUMP)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 11:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-yoyos/7834/20 "2009-12-01T23:48:28Z")
Try a Pocket Chang with OS rims. It’s SOOOOO awesome. I launced it two stories high, missed the catch, and it didn’t break or even bend a little. [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/4a-yoyos/7834.md?page=2)